Killings highest through August

East Baton Rouge Parish’s murder count remained high at the end of August, with 11 more people killed compared with the same period in 2009, a record-setting year for homicides, according to statistics compiled by The Advocate.

The number of people killed between January and August this year climbed to 73, which is 17 more than the 56 people who were slain during the same eight months last year. In 2009, the number of killings reached 62 by the end of August on the way to a record of 88 by the end of the year.

Fourteen of this year’s killings, or 19 percent, occurred outside the city limits and are being investigated by the Sheriff’s Office. That is just one fewer than all of the homicides the Sheriff’s Office investigated in all of last year.

Investigators with the Baton Rouge Police Department have handled 58 homicides so far this year, which is 15 more than during the same time frame last year and one more than they were investigating in 2009.

Authorities with the Baker Police Department are investigating one killing this year.

The motives for most of the killings are unknown.

Those for which police were able to establish motives include 11 people were slain in domestic-related incidents. Three of those 11 slayings were murder-suicides; two involved children.

Twelve people were killed during fights, four were slain in drug-related incidents, three were killed during an armed robbery and one was killed in a shootout, according to law enforcement authorities.

Eighteen killings happened in the ZIP code 70802, nine were slain in the ZIP code 70805 and six died in the ZIP code 70807. The remaining homicides occurred in other ZIP codes throughout the parish.

East Baton Rouge Parish District Attorney Hillar Moore III said he is “very disappointed” that the number of murders in the parish “continues to rise despite our traditional efforts and methods of attacking this problem.”

Most homicides in the area arise from “nonsense and arguments over disrespect,” Moore said. Disputes about drugs and other things account for many of the others.

Affecting group behavior is critical, Moore said, and is one of the main reasons the city-parish applied for a grant to implement a popular gun violence reduction strategy locally dubbed the Baton Rouge Area Violence Elimination Project.

In preparation of implementing BRAVE, city-parish leaders have met with a national expert in the strategy, David Kennedy of the John Jay School of Criminal Justice and director of the National Network for Safe Communities, as well as with other experts from Milwaukee and, most recently, Cincinnati, Moore said.

Leaders also are in the process of mapping crime data and will soon begin a review of homicides and non-fatal shootings to better identify the reasons behind each killing, Moore said.

The main thing they need to do for BRAVE to work, however, is “to speak in a clear moral voice,” Moore said. “ Together we must emphasize that violent behavior is not acceptable and that the community is working with law enforcement to ensure that it stops.”

Moore said he is encouraged by progress the Baton Rouge Police Department and East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff’s Office BRAVE teams have already made but understands “these are strategies that will take some time to begin seeing real success.”

Police Chief Dewayne White said he believes the number of murders in the area will go down if “we get at the core of the problem,” which includes poverty, lack of education, poor role models and a sense of helplessness.

The police chief said law enforcement also has to “disassemble groups of people who glorify the criminal way of life.”

“Many of them believe they don’t have anything to lose,” he said. “A lot don’t think they are going to live beyond 25.”

The city-parish is on the right track with BRAVE and the Family and Youth Service Center, which has put representatives of many social service and law enforcement agencies under one roof, White said.

While such programs try to target the root causes of violence in the community, White said a select group of officers are working overtime most nights to catch violent offenders.

Sheriff Gautreaux said his office will continue to use “aggressive, innovative enforcement couples with community outreach and education,” to combat crime.

He said the office also will continue to analyze call volume and crime statistics to allocate resources appropriately to address crime and its rook causes.

“I think community policing is a great marriage of enforcement and outreach,” he said.


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Comments (41)


1) Comment by nimby? - 05/09/2012

shall we ask Mr. Holder for advice on gun control ? tell you what DMJ , let us ask some of these young men where they are getting their weapons . if it's stolen , strike one , pull the trigger , strike two ....

2) Comment by DMJ - 05/09/2012

What a stupid, pointless and tragic debate. Like I said...you guys already won. Enjoy it...I guess.

3) Comment by CountryAttorney - 05/09/2012

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-oNMHNrS-8

4) Comment by CountryAttorney - 05/09/2012

Because the second amendment isn't about hunting or sport shooting. The second amendment is about protecting ourselves from a tyrannical government. The second amendment is not a warm and fuzzy amendment to the constitution, it prevents the government from oppressing its people. It is there so that we may rise up and remove tyrants. What did King George do when the colonies starting giving him trouble? He took away their arms. The founding fathers did not want their newborn nation to have the same ability.

5) Comment by DMJ - 05/09/2012

And how do you have common sense gun control without coming up with ways to control guns? Can't have your cake and eat it too, bub.

6) Comment by DMJ - 05/09/2012

Whatchange, sounds like you're in favor of closing the gun show loophole and re-instating the assault weapons ban. I guess we're both anti-gun nuts, eh?

7) Comment by Whatchange - 05/09/2012

I see the YAHOO DMJ is on his anti gun rant again. Well, to give the devil his due he does make some valid points. I bought a new rifle at a gun show last year in Gonzales. Walked in, found the rifle I wanted, paid the man and walked out with my rifle. There was no background check or any check of any kind. I'm a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment, I own my fair share of fire arms, but I'm also a man of common sense and know something needs to be done. Can someone please explain to me why the average person need to own any type of assault weapon, why have a magazine that holds more than 5 rounds, and don't try the old song and dance of personal protection, because I can, or I use it for hunting, its an assault weapon not a hunting rifle. Things have gotten out of hand and as sad as it is, something needs to be done, but anti gun nuts like the YAHOO DMJ who come up with ways to control guns scare me as well as the NRA who are for no gun control at all. We need a common sense approach to gun control.

8) Comment by CountryAttorney - 05/09/2012

Maybe if these people did more than vote for a living, they'd value human life a little more. I should have my rights restricted because some areas of big cities...democrat vote farms...can't act like human beings and resort to animal-like behavior. Why the black community still votes democrat is beyond me...they've been doing it for half a century and they're no better off today than they were when they started. They still have the highest rate of unemployment, they highest AIDS rate, the highest crime rate, the highest rate of poverty, etc. etc. Can someone answer that for me?

9) Comment by DMJ - 05/09/2012

Relax, yahoos. It's like I've been saying....you guys already won the gun control argument....and the result is 10,000 gun murders a year. Happy? This is what unfettered "freedom" looks like. Bask in it... Mmmmm.... Oh, and let me quote myself from earlier...."I'm not talking about taking away anyone's guns or banning them outright." Anyone want to rethink their inane tirades?

10) Comment by The_Host - 05/09/2012

@ Anon- No you keep THIS in mind. Once they outlaw guns they will have attacked our CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS and as such will be considered domestic terrorists. At which time the laws will be meaningless. The criminals who already don't follow laws STILL won't be and now you will have millions more suddenly made criminals by laws designed to remove our rights as US Citizens. Why is this logic string so hard for you liberals to comprehend? I have pictures of dead family members that fought and DIED for my RIGHT to own guns. Do you really think because some mealy mouth pinhead politician waves his hands and says guns are now illegal I will just so OK here ya go. Yeah that is not going to happen in my lifetime. Like I said they can't control a few blocks of animals and are afraid to even go in some places after dark now and these people can't really even shoot well. What happens when the numbers go exponential and the new criminals can all shoot because they have done so their entire lives or in the military? Go luck with that!

11) Comment by anonomous - 04/09/2012

@ host- be mindful if the laws change not surrendering your firearm will be unlawful. Ya know criminal, like those you must protect yourself from. Evidently the law to you is a menu that you pick and choose.

12) Comment by TheAgonyOfTruth - 04/09/2012

Most seem to forget that the police can't ride in Ike Matt Dillion. The criminals have to be caught or doing something criminal first before an arrest or investigation can begin. Will outreach work in the short term "NO" but it is a start. I don't think BRAVE can blab what progress is being made or what they are working on or know. I just wonder if all the people on here shooting off their ideas like professionals could begin to make one logical or lawful decision if given the chance. There would be more lawsuits alleging civil rights violations than you could count. It appears like plenty of arrests are made. Nationally, crime is up and will climb as the economy tanks further. A lot of this criminal behavior is common where parental values are lacking and poverty exists. We have created a dependent society and we are paying the price. Let's talk common sense and collectively try to help our community's problems not sit on our couches and cast blame and make remarks that only lends to define obvious ignorance of our judicial system and laws.

13) Comment by foldgers - 04/09/2012

Funny thing is, you need an ID to practice your right to bear arms, but not to practice your right to vote. I find that insane. And I am sure DMJ is one of those who say it is OK for the government to pick and choose which rights they can limit to the people. DMJ, if you are OK with the government telling me how many rounds of ammo I can buy, then you should be OK with the government telling those on welfare how many kids they can have? I do not think the government should be able to tell them how many kids they can have, but I think the government can say... well, we will cover the first three kids. Any after that and you do not get any extra welfare. Safe sex will be practiced a lot more!

14) Comment by The_Host - 04/09/2012

DMJ- You seriously need to get off your gun control kick, it is not going anywhere. There is no such thing as a Pawn Shop loophole or a Gun Show Loophole. Either place you have to do the background check just like any typical gun store requires. We can't track guns, don't believe me just ask Eric Holder and Obama I think they just failed completely at that very task. Do you know how much ammo I need? Who are you to tell me how much I need? I shoot competitively 3 times a month and practice at my home. So based on that how many rounds do I need a year exactly? You say you don't want to take guns or ban them outright but you are fine with limiting ammo amounts. Have you ever tried to carry 5000 rounds of ammo DMJ? A case of .22 LR weights over 40 lbs. Go give it a shot and let us know how nimble you are trying to do so! We already limit the types of guns people can buy and have been doing so for decades. No one dealing guns on the internet is doing it any differently than the local gun shop. You still have to do the same background form you do at the pawn shop and gun show. There is no such thing as tamper proof serialization. Parts can be changed out at will. But I guess your master plans involves the sale of no after market parts or replacement parts as well. California wanted to serialize firing pins and finger print each pistol before it was sold. So I go to the range and pick up all sorts of brass with serial numbers from other peoples guns and toss them at a crime site and take all my empties with me. Can you say goose chase? So DMJ have you volunteered yet to be 1st on the list to go around and collect the guns yourself? Truly though the bottom line is you and all your gun grabbing comrades will never and I mean NEVER get my guns nor any of the other guns of any other owners I know. Just think about how it is going to play out DMJ. Lets look at the ghetto where they can't control a few blocks with animals running around that besides pulling the trigger are pretty much gun illiterate and can't usually hit anything unless it is 10 feet away. So we have that side we can't control. Now imagine that same government (with you leading the way of course) trying to disarm all the past military men and competition shooters and hunters of this country. How exactly do you think that is going to go down? Do you honestly think that you and government will win that war? It is obvious you are clueless about guns but can you really be so far delusional about what it would mean to even attempt to take guns away from people, law abiding people no less. Wouldn't last one week.

15) Comment by DMJ - 04/09/2012

What does that anecdote have to do with anything?

16) Comment by BRmoderate - 04/09/2012

I saw a guy in the grocery store. Four debit cards get declined to buy $40 worth of groceries. This guy had the LARGEST gold chains I have ever seen. Two diamonds in his ear, and huge rims on his car. Oh did I mention he had a "LA Purchase" card as well? I saw this first hand and promise it is the truth...Saw it while he was fishing for an working card...when people's priorities/morality are restored, we will see lower violence. Until then, nothing will change

17) Comment by DMJ - 04/09/2012

I'm not talking about taking away anyone's guns or banning them outright. Gun control doesn't have to be all or nothing, and we can do it without violating the Supreme Court's interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. Step 1 is admitting to ourselves that easy access to guns means more murders. We can track guns. We can require their registrations. We can end gun show and pawn shop loopholes. We can limit the amount and type of ammunition one can buy. We can put an end to interstate and internet gun sales. We can limit the amount and type of guns people can buy. We can make the gun manufacturers put tamper-proof identification #s on their products. None of these would violate the 2nd Amendment. Yes, gun ownership is a right...but not every right is limitless. We have freedom of speech but not to the point that it endangers innocent people- We can't yell "fire" in a crowded theatre, we can't disturb the peace, we can't incite a riot, we can't lie in court, we can't threaten someone, etc. We don't have to choose between public safety and gun rights. We can have both, and we should at least try to. Because let's face it.. if we have already chosen....public safety lost. Big time.

18) Comment by HMaltravers - 04/09/2012

After all is said and done, more is said than done.

19) Comment by nimby? - 04/09/2012

guns don't unless someone is pulling the trigger ...

20) Comment by grimcity - 04/09/2012

According to the stats in the article, it's more dangerous to be part of a family than it is to be a drug dealer.

21) Comment by Whatnow - 04/09/2012

@CountryAttorney, I'll second that!

22) Comment by CountryAttorney - 04/09/2012

But because I have a gun, I don't care what color you are, how much money you make, how many kids you have, or who your mamma is, if you try to do harm to me and mine, at least we're on an even playing field. Because if guns are illegal, I must rely on police response to a situation, and usually by then, I've already been killed by the SOB who didn't give to farts about gun control laws...BECAUSE HE'S A FREAKING CRIMINAL!!!

23) Comment by CountryAttorney - 04/09/2012

Maybe its not the gun laws of a particular location that contributes to the homicide rate. More likely, its that location's racial, educational, and socioeconomic characteristics that contribute to the crime rate. When you do nothing more than vote and procreate for a living, I guess life is cheap.

24) Comment by foldgers - 04/09/2012

*Ben, not Been... :)

25) Comment by foldgers - 04/09/2012

And DMJ, I don't know what you want, but if you think we should live in a country where only those in law enforcement and military have the guns... wow. I do not want that. And I would hope EVERY AMERICAN would never go for that. As Been Franklin said, "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

26) Comment by foldgers - 04/09/2012

Guns are NOT the problem. The idiots who think the only way of life is gangsta life and from day one are told that they are NEVER going to be anything important in life because the man won't let them are the problem. Also, apparently killing someone will now get you a free roof over your head, three square meals a day, free running water, free sewage use, free cable, free education, free workout gyms, free HEALTHCARE... all for LIFE, not a bad deal for the criminal... if the punishment truly fit the crime, I promise crime would drop in a second. But no, let's go make buddy buddies with the criminals... This is all backwards...

27) Comment by DMJ - 04/09/2012

We've been over this....one city's tough gun laws can't do any good when that city is surrounded by a country with loose gun laws. Think about it. Access to guns isn't the only problem, but pretending like easy access to guns isn't a problem is dangerously naive.

28) Comment by ex-louisianian - 04/09/2012

The DA and even the police chief speak more sensibly than I would have thought. But that may be only for public consumption. Ultimately, the crime in those zip codes are caused by terminal underemployment -- which is a deliberate policy. The prison industry makes its profit from the use of unpaid inmate labor, which north Baton Rouge supplies in huge quantities.

29) Comment by CountryAttorney - 04/09/2012

@DMJ: Look at Obama's "home" city of Chicago. That city has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation. They are so strict that challenges to its laws have been brought before SCOTUS. Yet the crime in Chicago is so bad, so out of control, that the mayor has asked the federal government for reinforcements. Less guns is not the answer. More guns might not be the answer either, but it definitely doesn't hurt. I know I've said this a million times, but if you make guns illegal, only the bad guys will have guns.

30) Comment by MissCotillion - 04/09/2012

I am so tired of these news articles promoting project BRAVE. How about some news articles where law enforcement is doing, not talking? For example, officers could investigate crimes, track down criminals, and arrest them. DA Moore could take the criminals to trial instead of pleading the cases out. Seems we need a brave DA and a brave police chief, not pseudo social working ones who do nothing but make excuses and talk about what they are going to do in the future. What are they doing today besides giving interviews?

31) Comment by MrVPP - 04/09/2012

Hillar Moore is "very disappointed"? He sounds like Obama, and I am starting to think that like Obama he is just in over his head. Chief White is no better. Talking about solving social problems, root causes. They are both in law enforcement and should take an enforcement view to fix the problem. Tires are slashed on cars near a precinct and Lil Boosie mocks the DA. That tells me the thugs have no fear of Hillar Moore or Dewayne White.

32) Comment by DMJ - 04/09/2012

Question....why does the BRAVE effort concentrate on 70805 when 70802 had twice as many killings? And tradewinns, you just agreed with what most death penalty detractors have been saying for years - it's not a deterrent. More death penalty executions won't deter crime. Just look at other countries with considerably less crime that haven't used the death penalty in decades. Of course, those countries also have strict gun control laws, but I guess that's another issue.... Or is it?

33) Comment by Grumpy - 04/09/2012

2011 Homicide rates per 100k for Orleans = 56 / Baton Rouge = 21 / Lafourche = 2.3. Same state. Same laws. Lafourche residents probably have a higher rate of gun ownership. Maybe I'll move back to Thibodaux.

34) Comment by Being_Stupid - 04/09/2012

Two (2) Full Moons occurred in August.

35) Comment by Being_Stupid - 04/09/2012

Two (2) Full Moons occurred this month. Full moons bring out the evil in people and animals.

36) Comment by tradewinns - 04/09/2012

until the fear of punishment exceeds the perceived "reward" of crime, crime will continue. there is little to no fear of the death penalty because the actual implimentation of the DP is so unusual, infrequent it is ignored.

37) Comment by nimby? - 04/09/2012

according to estimates between 2010 - 2011 EBR parish population grew by 1900 , within the city limits it grew 12 ......

38) Comment by Bouncer - 04/09/2012

Is anyone really surprised by this? Look around at all of the feral animals masquerading as human beings on parade in this town. You should expect the trend to continue.

39) Comment by nimby? - 04/09/2012

there is no problem ; life is grand , people are wonderful ....

40) Comment by tball - 04/09/2012

Good points Chucky - This cycle will continue, they might save a few with different approaches. You have kids having kids, you have four & five generations of the same, how can they give parental guidance when they did not get any!!! Obama will fix it!!

41) Comment by Chucky - 04/09/2012

poverty ? have a cell phone have a tv ? have water and have food , have a park have a library have a school have gun have clothes and have my booz, have my drugs have my girl have the streets and have it all.