Our Views: For the poor, a tax voice

If the poor in Louisiana don’t have much of a constituency at the State Capitol, where better-heeled interests predominate, an expression of concern from the state’s clergy might make some trouble for the sales tax increases proposed by Gov. Bobby Jindal.

The delegation of clergy members writing to express doubts about sales tax increases included more than 250 pastors of predominantly Protestant congregations, but also spanning the racial divide of Sunday mornings in Louisiana.

Their main issue: Louisiana’s “unfair and regressive tax structure” that Jindal’s plan might well make worse, not better.

In outline, although not yet in detailed legislation, the governor’s plans include elimination of the personal and corporate income and franchise taxes. The loss in state revenue would be made up, mostly, by an increase in sales taxes and broadening the tax take from sales taxes by levying it on services not previously taxed in Louisiana.

Life as the clergy see it is not fair. “Currently, families earning minimum wage (less than $16,000 per year) pay 10.6 percent of their income in state and local taxes; the average Louisiana family pays 10.1 percent of its income in taxes; while the wealthiest Louisiana families (earning over $1 million per year) pay only 4.6 percent of their income in state and local taxes,” the open letter said. “That is unacceptable, as a starting point.”

That is the starting point, but not enough for the governor. Jindal’s plan — leaving aside open questions of what additional services will be taxed — raises the sales tax to a proposed 5.88 percent. That’s only the state portion of the sales taxes most people in Louisiana pay. The state would likely have the highest combined state and local sales tax burden in the country.

“It is universally recognized that sales taxes create a disproportionate burden on poor and moderate-income families, who spend nearly all they earn,” the clergy letter said.

For Jindal, who promotes the tax swap as a way to generate new jobs in the state, the issue of the regressive nature of sales taxes has not gone unrecognized. He has suggested, although without detail as yet, that he has ideas about how to mitigate the impact of sales taxes on the poor.

Like the clergy, we are concerned that whatever is proposed might not be enough: “Any increase in the sales tax would deepen the root causes behind the unfair and regressive nature of our state’s tax structure and worsen the burden for poor and moderate-income families in our community.”

The clergy introduce another issue, particularly relevant to those dependent on state services, sustainability of the state’s tax base.

“Swapping income taxes for sales taxes replaces a faster-growing revenue source with a slower-growing revenue source,” the clergy letter noted.

“If our state begins to rely even more heavily upon a slower-growing portion of our economy for revenue, we will face deficits and service cuts down the road that make our current ones seem small,” the letter said. The letter is available at http://www.lafaithcommunity.com.

We appreciate the latter point being made, for that was one of the principles behind the landmark Stelly tax reform plan of 2002. It raised income taxes to reduce sales taxes, by eliminating sales taxes on groceries, residential utilities and prescription drugs. Those constitutional exemptions remain, and Jindal has said that he will not seek to change them.

That means that any new levy won’t be as regressive as a food tax, but it does mean that Louisiana’s revenue picture needs to be part of the tax package discussion.

The Stelly plan’s income tax levies helped to create a growing revenue stream, but Jindal pushed big tax cuts that eroded the general fund, leading to many of the cuts referred to in the clergy letter.

If there is original sin in this tax debate, we suggest it is the repeal of the Stelly income tax provisions. The instability that has ensued in state finances leads to all sorts of tributary sins.


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Comments (24)


1) Comment by Diogenes - 21/03/2013

It was just brought to my attention that the Louisiana Department of Revenue is in the process of drafting legislation to create a state tax court. While details of the tax court have not been released, I find it odd that one of the parties that will frequently appear as a litigant before the hypothetical tax court, is in charge of drafting legislation creating it. Can we say Conflict of Interest? It would be far more logical that the Supreme Court oversee the creation of a tax court, since the Louisiana Constitution places the administration of all Louisiana courts under their supervision, yet Gov. Jindal is ignoring the Supreme Court and will try to ram rod a tax court bill through the Legislature that was handcrafted by the Department of Revenue. Get ready Louisiana Citizens, because soon your ability to challenge the Department of Revenue will be in a proceeding they created. All I have to say is that something smells fishy at the Department of Revenue!

2) Comment by foldgers - 21/03/2013

“It is universally recognized that sales taxes create a disproportionate burden on poor and moderate-income families, who spend nearly all they earn,” the clergy letter said (Really? Show me the proof, or are we just going to believe whatever he says because he is clergy? Remember Jimmy Swag? I can SHOW you evidence that minimum wage increases actually increase unemployment among the poor and uneducated, but then again, you won't want to see that, will you?

3) Comment by Attila - 20/03/2013

Ever since LBJ, the worst President until Obama, pushed his "Great Society" debacle on the country we have seen a continued increase in the amount of money that we throw at the problem of the "poor". All that has been accomplished is that we have enabled two, going on three, generations of people to believe that they are "victims", and entitled to as much as they can suck out of the people who actually pay the taxes. If conventional wisdom is right why, since everyone has had equal access to public education for over 50 years do we still have so many "poor" in this state. Whose fault is it? I submit that it is the fault of most of those who claim victim status, and refuse to put forth the effort to improve their lot in life. It is the result of federal ineptitude that not only condones, but encourages people to avail themselves of "government benefits" paid for by someone else. It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that throwing trillions of dollars at the problem only results in the same people who are the recipients of the largesse of the rest of us, to demand more. Now, I am not speaking of those who are so elderly and infirm as to be unable to care for themsleves or earn their own way. I am speaking of those who squander the opportunities that are available to educate themselves, or otherwise prefer to depend on that government check. If a person that is working in a low wage job, and aspire to have more than their compensation allows, then they should get a second job. There are millions out there who are doing just that...just there are exponentially millions more who sit around with their hands out, palms up, and the liberals keep greasing them.

4) Comment by Schmatzo - 20/03/2013

Interesting lively debate here. Glad to see some folks invested in generating some new ideas and fresh thought. I think it's sad when someone is "poor" or at the "poverty level". You know, I can relate to that myself a little bit, without getting too carried away, let's just say, I was cast (instantly) into the role of breadwinner for my family when I was in high school. I didn't miss much, I was pretty dumb anyway. Ended up working at Mickey D's on Plank, (the 60"s). I didn't think of it as a "Mac-Job", cheese, it was a paycheck, which I promptly turned over to my mom, to pay the bills. Yes, there were alot of times when I felt like I was missing out, but "tough luck". Things got better, went back, finished HS. We didn't have "safety nets", your backbone, and getting your butt out of bed and going to work, at something, anything, was your safety net. Taking orders from people and doing your job were what you did to make your life happen, whether you liked it or not. It was not an issue. That "was life". We have spent trillions of dollars over three or four decades to "help the poor". Programs intended to help the poor, instead sheparded them into a perpetual dependence on government programs from which there is no likely escape. At the end of the day, there is no tax program in particular that will greatly affect the folks in this economic demographic. I wish them well.

5) Comment by Whatnow - 20/03/2013

The poor need to be inspired by more "heros" like Dr. Ben Carson to show how to lift themselves out of poverty instead of those who blame everyone else to keep them there.

6) Comment by Hello Baton Rouge - 20/03/2013

If this is such a bad idea why is it working for all the other states that do it? When I worked in Texas I found it to be a great thing.

7) Comment by crazycajun - 20/03/2013

L'il booby knew exactly what he was doing when he repealed the Stelly Plan and cut the corp. tax over 80%. Doing that gave him the leverage to decimate the Charity System and education. Both areas he wanted privatized. And he accomplished that. Way to go geniuses that bought into that good transparent BS.

8) Comment by crazycajun - 20/03/2013

agagent, being stupid & tradewinns must be the part of the party booby called stupid. LOL

9) Comment by tradewinns - 20/03/2013

i hate the poor. first and foremost the majority of poor are poor because of their own bad choices. second they have done nothing to improve their position or status in life since the first bad choices put them in their current position. the poor are content to ride the backs of the working people and whine about how badly life has treated them. a few, very few, whose misfortune has been to be born or crippled with severe mental or physical handicaps that impieds their abilities to make a decent living has everyone sympathy. not so the low life scum that wait for hours in lines to live off the work of others. if they don't have to work, they dont have to eat either.

10) Comment by tradewinns - 20/03/2013

i hate the poor. first and foremost the majority of poor are poor because of their own bad choices. second they have done nothing to improve their position or status in life since the first bad choices put them in their current position. the poor are content to ride the backs of the working people and whine about how badly life has treated them. a few, very few, whose misfortune has been to be born or crippled with severe mental or physical handicaps that impieds their abilities to make a decent living has everyone sympathy. not so the low life scum that wait for hours in lines to live off the work of others. if they don't have to work, they dont have to eat either.

11) Comment by SuzanneMS - 20/03/2013

I wonder how many of those who below who are in favor of leaving the poor out in the cold call themselves Christians. And how are the Catholics among them going to reconcile that attitude with Pope Francis' focus on caring for the poor? There's monetary poverty and then there's spiritual poverty. And agagent, the only state that gets more funding per capita from the federal government than Louisiana is Mississippi -- $4565 per person last year. We get back $1.78 for every $1 in federal taxes that is collected -- in other words, we get it all back and then some. So don't sit there in your smug self-righteousness and claim that you did it all yourself. You wouldn't have roads to drive on or schools to go to if it weren't for the federal money pumped into this state. And that's just the beginning.

12) Comment by teacherguy - 20/03/2013

Here is the key on consumption...you pay the same tax rate no matter how much you purchase. And if your annual income is near the poverty level @ $16,000, granted you will consume a lot less than someone with $80,000, but the necessities of living become brutal with a higher cash register tax. This is why I see this from a poor man's view point. With $80,000 in my hand...it is easy for me to say...you only pay taxes on what you buy, and EVERYONE should be giving their fair share. I'll gladly trade my income taxes for a cash register tax that makes EVERYONE pay their fair share! But is it really their fair share, when we have made it even harder for them to buy necessities for survival? I couldn't imagine surviving on less than $16,000/year...much less reducing what I have to spend by adding a register tax. Think that one through...keeping a car running, gasoline, lights, food, school expenses, water, trash, on $16k. I can't look those people in the eye and say, "We are going to raise sales taxes," without at least considering how hard it will be for them. I'm talking about people too proud to take welfare, too old to have more than an SS check, retirees with fixed checks from 20 years ago pay, college kids, people who didn't have family pushing them to finish high school/college, etc. If there were some way to exempt the first $16k from taxes, then let it kick in after that...but then one may upset the "preachers" with the mark of the beast! LOL

13) Comment by DMJ - 20/03/2013

I never thought I'd say this, but here goes... Hey, Governor Jindal! Listen to those priests, preachers and pastors. It's good to see religious people fighting against injustice and not telling people what to do with their bodies or who to have sex with.

14) Comment by prbeav - 20/03/2013

Watching from the bleachers, Jindal is beyond strange. I wondered if he changed religions for political purposes; why he favored the other sect within his new religion; why he thought Kathleen Blanco would trade compliments with him (end 2003 debate); if he felt self-named "progressives" in universities needed punishment and their students new inculcation; how a biology degree so regressed him; how he a team for federal politics (assembled at Louisiana taxpayers' expense) can avoid Jindal's folly; why he would reject federal largesse without the necessary funds; why he would make jokes about his in-laws visiting at Christmastime; why he would ignore a massive sink hole. Could he be imagining that taxing the poor of Louisiana punishes Obama's federal welfare spending? His biographer might mimic Don Quixote.

15) Comment by BRLA1982 - 20/03/2013

I'm not a religious person, but I'm very thankful that many in the Louisiana's faith community are standing up to this extremely unfair plan. I can't believe I'm just now learning that low-income citizens in our state pay up to 10.6% income in state and local taxes, while those who earn over $1 million a year, pay only 4.6%. This is pathetic and shameful.

16) Comment by rgeraldwallace@cox.net - 20/03/2013

Hmm. Is the solution the status quo? Nobody seems to think that "the poor" should have to bear any burden at all, that such a thing is "fair", but history shows that anytime one class is gifted with freebies to keep them pacified, pliable, and official approval of that status, then that class grows exponentially. The sad fact is that a lot of people will take this bribe while carping and whining for more, while they engage in the hedonistic pursuits that the state is encouraging to keep them distracted from the fact that their life is sad and meaningless.

17) Comment by agagent - 20/03/2013

We are no far removed from a time when almost everyone in the state was poor: had no refrigerators, wood stoves for heating, no phones or TV’s, no indoor commodes, no clothes dryers, and no cars for the kids. What helped us escape that poverty was not having someone “being a spokesman for the poor” or government handouts but in helping each other, getting an education, and hard work. Those living in poverty may have more material things but they will not escape poverty by following someone who is "being a spokesman for them." There better way is helping each other, an education, an improved economy and more jobs.

18) Comment by Being_Stupid - 20/03/2013

Poor in America = Lazy in America

19) Comment by Being_Stupid - 20/03/2013

I could care less about the parasites on welfare having to pay higher sales taxes next they use their food stamps. However I am concerned about retailers and small 1 employee business owners.

20) Comment by agagent - 20/03/2013

Convince the poor that they are poor because someone else is rich, that they are poor because they lack political power, and that they are owed everything without working and you condemn them to waste their lives in a life of poverty. They will no long see the value of an education and of hard work in escaping poverty. The real friend of the poor gives them temporary assistance until they reenter the workforce and then allow them to regain the dignity of providing for themselves and their family, and the pride of paying taxes like everyone else.

21) Comment by jdk944 - 20/03/2013

Well it seems like EVERYTHING hurts the poor in some way. Before the full details of Jindal's idea on this comes out, these Clergy are out there expressing their opposition. How about waiting until ALL the details comes out on this?? And isn't this idea somewhat of a "consumption" tax based on a flat rate? The more you consume, the more dollars overall you pay!! Isn't that what a "flat" rate income tax would be only based on income rather than consumption?? Would like the religious community to show this much outward concerns etc. for the issues having to do with the breakdown of the family and immorality!!!!!!!!!

22) Comment by SuzanneMS - 20/03/2013

Is the proposed repeal of tax-exemptions for Habitat for Humanity, Councils on Aging and the Make It Right foundation, and the elimination of the state sales tax holidays his way of "mitigating the impact?" With a friend like Jindal, the poor don't need enemies. The man is entirely without conscience.

23) Comment by Scrooge - 19/03/2013

wouldn't this sales tax seriously hurt local businesses by driving sales to the internet and out of state? How's the honor system for internet sales working so far? Not so good? Well, how about basing revenue projections on tickets written to people for driving in the left lane? How about a delusion tax where absurdities are taxed? How about the hole in the budget that the salaries of all these government financial geniuses is creating so they can create more? Obviously, we don't need any more mental hospitals the lunatics have all been let loose.

24) Comment by teacherguy - 19/03/2013

I must say that at first I thought getting rid of state income tax and converting to a higher state sales tax would be a better choice, because my wife and I together make enough money to pay for the things in life we need/want. However, as I look around at those making below the national poverty line...I realize that such a tax would overburden these folks. I could care less about illegal immigrants' being overburdened with higher state sales taxes....but my fixed income dad, and the janitors at my school, and the people working in the fast food business, and etc.....well, it has made it a little more complicated for me to embrace this tax plan.