Our Views: Hard lessons about skills

In the sloganeering battle over “big government” in Washington, the proper role of government is too often lost in the discussion.

Government is not here to “create jobs” or other justifications for tax breaks or special privileges for those interests powerful enough to get taxpayer money from self-interested politicians. Government takes from the taxpayer to pay for the things that allow people to thrive for themselves: physical infrastructure — roads, bridges and the like — and intellectual infrastructure, the schools, colleges and libraries.

The latter build the skills of Louisiana’s population, and those should be a focus of governmental spending.

One recent report from the Greater New Orleans Community Data Center showed the importance of intellectual infrastructure.

The report — no surprise here — outlined the significant gap in New Orleans between the experience and education that available jobs require and the skills that the workforce has.

While the economy shifts toward more knowledge-based industries, such as digital media, advanced manufacturing and environmental and biomedical industries, the training opportunities needed to prepare the workforce to fill those jobs are not keeping up, said Allison Plyer, chief demographer and director for the data center.

Many of the jobs that will be generated even in high-tech fields may not require a four-year degree, Plyer noted, but knowledge-based industries with middle to high skill levels needed at work may account for more than half of all job openings by 2020.

The larger point of this report and many others that can be read across the United States is that educational attainment at all levels is the infrastructure for the success of the city. And no surprise, the same can be said of every community in Louisiana.

That is why we have been dismayed at the cavalier attitude of Gov. Bobby Jindal and lawmakers since 2008 toward cutting higher education. In Louisiana, community colleges and technical schools are largely funded at the state level. Rising tuition in what should be lower-cost opportunities for students is a growing problem.

The New Orleans report also emphasizes another lesson that should be appreciated by taxpayers: The value of intellectual infrastructure is not limited to those who are educated in it.

Whether a family has children in school or not, school funding is important to the economy in which all of us function. Whether a family has a student in college or not, the cuts in colleges hurt Louisiana society collectively.

That’s as true, the New Orleans report indicated, whether the student is a child in school or a 20-something who has, for whatever reason, failed in the past to get an education. Whether through community college and technical schools, or other means, “we must upgrade and update the skills of the current working-age population who will make up the bulk of the labor pool for decades to come.”

The Data Center study indicated that 27 percent of the working age population lacks literacy skills, including reading, writing, numerical proficiency and computer skills.

While Plyer said that literacy can be challenging to measure. The study arrived at the 27 percent figure by looking at three groups: Working-age people without a high school diploma, those with no education past a high school diploma who are below 200 percent of the federally defined poverty level and people who speak English as a second language who have a high school diploma or less.

Workforce development must be a priority for the city, the report says, and will require an “all hands on deck” approach with no quick fixes.

That observation holds true not just for New Orleans but for communities across the state.

Addressing the problem on a large scale costs money, but it’s money spent on infrastructure that we can’t afford to neglect.


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1) Comment by prbeav - 13/02/2013

Bourbon-soda, I agree. Also, I hope judge dismissed the Lehigh suit.

2) Comment by bourbon-soda - 13/02/2013

@prbeav - If that right exists, it is going to be arbitrary and capricious to enforce it because of the question of failure of the student to exercise it while taking the course. My impression is that most changes in math instruction for some decades have resulted in less, rather than more, effective learning, going back to the "new math." I stumbled on a story of a Lehigh U student suing to get a grade raised, so maybe a right to pass math and other courses will be found in the penumbras of shadows of emanations of rights in the Constitution (like the right to privacy). The Lehigh course was not math, but the principle would be the same - if I fail, you deprive me of ability to earn, therefore you owe me; the more so since I have a "right to mathematics."

3) Comment by prbeav - 13/02/2013

Bourbon-soda: about a "right to mathematics," that is what turned me off when I found that PhD educator pushing it a few years ago. However, Project Seed, see at http://projectseed.org/ , gave me some insight into a redeeming notion. Since students have shown reluctance to learn math, let educators spend some creative energy to find more effective ways to teach it. It's a stretch, I know, but consider it this way: society requires students to learn math and therefore has an obligation to effectively teach math. Thus, students have the right to mathematics.

4) Comment by prbeav - 13/02/2013

@Scrooge: Sorry I missed your interesting points and hope you come back here. “ . . . subjective opinion.” Maybe so, but I don’t think so. Choose an object of art; let’s say a biography of Abraham Lincoln. It may contain some objective facts, like where Lincoln was born, but the biography itself is filled with untruths derived from inaccuracies in the historical records plus misinterpretations of the misinformation by the biographer. There must be a few hundred Lincoln biographies. Try landscape art: the view being painted is objective, but the work expresses the painter’s views and expression of them. In 1972, my wife and I both loved a landscape of Mt. Olympus but could not afford it so worked together to find a complaint, settling on the pink coloring as too abstract; the very next week, the mountain itself was colored pink by a low, setting sun; today, we wish we had wired home for the money to buy that painting, because both of us liking a landscape comes so infrequently. In other words, yes, art value is in the mind of the beholder.>>>>But the value of the objective truth exists regardless of the mind of the beholder. For example, life existed on Earth long before minds existed on Earth, regardless of what scriptures say.>>>>I agree 100% that life is incomplete without appreciation but too many people take that to mean either emotionalism or spiritualism.>>>>I'm bad at math. If I wanted to teach, I’d choose reading-with-comprehension and what I would strive to share is that the student’s lifetime (about 80 of some 10 trillion man-years so far) is in his/her hands and duty to self involves spending the first 20-30 years acquiring the information needed to choose a first field of service, beginning to serve while still learning, then beginning to discover personal preferences for life while still serving, perhaps in a new role, then continuing to learn until the mind is closed by death only. I’d get enough education in education to know how to share this at the age level I was working with--maybe six or so.

5) Comment by bourbon-soda - 12/02/2013

Should be "affect" rather than "effect."

6) Comment by bourbon-soda - 12/02/2013

There is no absolute responsibility to educate, since education depends on the student as well as on whoever provides the opportunity. That the attempt to facilitate education is being discharged might be a conclusion drawn from the lack of correlation between funding and outcomes. For most states, spending more money (the purpose for the article) is unlikely to help; spending less money, unlikely to hurt. A logical possibility but unlikely, is that no state has reached the threshold where funding would help. Maybe $30K per pupil annual spending would have an effect. I doubt it, but it is a possibility. Another logical possibility is that 40% of the population is either unable or intransigently unwilling to learn algebra, and probably another 20% unwilling to use it. My recollection of first exposure to algebra was that it was like "First Looking into Chapman's Homer" but it does not seem to effect everyone that way. I don't $50K per pupil expenditure in New Orleans would do the job, but that's just me.

7) Comment by Scrooge - 12/02/2013

But the pattern of lapsing into absurdity when a logical defense is apparently not forthcoming is noted, enough of this

8) Comment by Scrooge - 12/02/2013

Doesn't the larger implication here concern the responsibility or not of a society to educate or at least attempt to facilitate the education of its members? BTW, due to the educational opportunities which I could ill afford at the time but given to me by social and governmental entities, I can now afford my own taxi.

9) Comment by bourbon-soda - 12/02/2013

What was the number for that free taxi service?

10) Comment by Scrooge - 12/02/2013

"an eye for an eye" would require execution of a murderer in the same manner in which he dispatched his victims since the murderer had little regard for the victim's civil rights and right to due process, however civil rights in a civil society must necessarily reject its own refutation, otherwise there is little point in civil rights or even civilized societies.

11) Comment by bourbon-soda - 12/02/2013

@Scrooge - i was alluding to Descartes' more specific association of mathematics with science rather than to the general "cogito" assertion. The rest of your post seems to be response to prbeav. @prbeav - I googled "mathematics as a civil right" and got lots of hits - interesting, but possibly inconsistent with psychometric reality, plus I don't understand how something can be civil right for individuals who can reject it.

12) Comment by Scrooge - 12/02/2013

"All of the arts may be categorized as subjective truths and are worth only what the buyer will pay" isn't that a subjective opinion? Cogito ergo sum makes no categorizations as to econommic or other fitness tests and wouldn't a categorization other than cogito be subjectivist? isn't value in the mind of the beholder? Delve deep enough and empiricism becomes quite subjective and ambiguous, consider quantum physics. "Understanding the objective truth positions the individual to choose subjective truths she/he might like to explore" Unfortunately,humans tend to ignore the purpoted primacy of objecitivism (one only need read theadvocate comments), the reality! is that human cognition necessarily proceeds from the subjective to the objective, especially in high school classrooms. I agree wholeheartedly that reality intervenes at the most inopportune moments. You might make a good math, science, etc. teacher but the divide you speak of constitutes a whole human being, i.e 1/2 + 1/2 =1.

13) Comment by bourbon-soda - 12/02/2013

Dr. Hacker is described not as an artsy-fartsy but as emeritus professor of political science at CUNY. Political science makes extensive use of mathematics dependent on algebra, in keeping with Descartes's (Descartes'?) dictum or prediction that a field of study is scientific to the extent it is mathematical. Creationism is not the only dogma inimical to free inquiry. The regnant dogma of egalitarianism is another. Dr. Hacker may merely wish us to avert our societal gaze from mathematics' different accessibility to different segments of the bell curve, or by the idea of the bell curve itself. never mind that it underlies large areas of all the behavioral sciences, including political science. CUNY itself has had a disastrous large scale flirtation with the dogma of egalitarianism in the form of open admissions.

14) Comment by prbeav - 11/02/2013

@bourbon-soda. “Is Algebra Necessary?” by Prof. (of Political Science) Andrew Hacker, July 28, 2012, NYT, reminds me how unqualified I am to suggest methods of education. However, his article makes me think he is a liberal arts person, if not art appreciation advocate above anything else. Also, I wonder what he thinks about the mileage philosophers and writers have garnished examining 2+2=4. I do not treat this statement as art: I respond “2 apples plus 2 oranges equals 4 fruit; always”. I think I am making Frenkel’s point (below).>>>>Moreover, Hacker reminds me: I would teach starting in high school or sooner that understanding may be divided in two interests: subjective truths and the objective truth. Notice “the” in the last phrase. All of the arts may be categorized as subjective truths and are worth only what the buyer will pay (they are the “human knowledge” David Hume said should be collected and burned, but then that’s Hume); they include fine arts, philosophy, religion, political science, astrology, etc. The objective truth addresses what is real: nature, evolution and real history, understanding evidence, health care –body, mind and life, mathematics, economic viability, language, culture, etc. Understanding the objective truth positions the individual to choose subjective truths she/he might like to explore.>>>>Math Prof. Edward Frenkel wonderfully rebuts Hacker’s failure to understand. Unfortunately, Slate is probably not as widely read and revered by many as the Sunday Times.>>>>I found a site that offers a wonderful, fifty year-old method called “Project Seed.” The 14 minute sales video got my interest. View at http://projectseed.org/about-us/ . They employ the Socratic method—questioning. Given a math statement, what does it mean to you, why is that it’s meaning, and how did you determine the what and why?>>>>Neither Hacker nor his critics nor Frenkel mentioned Project Seed.>>>>Thank you for your kindness.

15) Comment by bourbon-soda - 11/02/2013

As often happens, links do not seem to work. For the first, google "hacker is algebra necessary new york times" and click the nytimes hit. For the second, "hacker algebra slate magazine."

16) Comment by bourbon-soda - 11/02/2013

@prbeav - thank you for your usual measured response. There seems to be movement in favor of a right to be free of mathematics, or most of it: << http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/opinion/sunday/is-algebra- necessary.html?pagewanted=all&_r=3& >> with a response at << http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/02/s hould_algebra_be_in_curriculum_why_math_protects_us_from_t he_unscrupulous.html >> I have an admittedly idiosyncratic hypothesis that zealotry about in favor of broader acceptance of evolution and against religion ends up postponing the attainment of either. I was unable to find anything about a "right to mathematics." I would appreciate any further leads to it that anyone might have.

17) Comment by prbeav - 11/02/2013

@bourbon-soda. I found that immolation at http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/02/07/3839994/alleged-witch-burned-alive-in.html . Torture then burning alive! With police and children watching. It seems that cultural evolution produced some monster societies (more musing beyond my education).>>>>The last time I took serious interest in actually trying to do something about education, I found a federal paper by a PhD educator on "'the right' to mathematics" and got discouraged.>>>>I wish an educator would take interest in coaching first graders to work toward their natural, unique psychological maturity.>>>>@whatnow. The majority of Americans must realize that We the People as defined in the preamble to the US Constitution IS THE GOVERNMENT and that in its 224 years of operation the people have never accepted the gift and duty of governance by the governed. instead of working together for the seven stated, shared, secular goals, we remain divided over God.>>>>My personal thought is that the majority are waiting for God to kick in and make America the golden nation. It ain't gonna happen.

18) Comment by bourbon-soda - 11/02/2013

@prbeav - Sounds great and should result in more prevalent passage of NAEP or pathetic LEAP as a by-product, which has never been accomplished in LA under any administration or education regime with or without "teaching to to the test." After doing all you prescribe, LEAP should be a mere bagatelle. And did you notice they just immolated a witch in New Guinea?

19) Comment by Whatnow - 11/02/2013

prbeav, "Our culture is tragic. We can change." The question is when does that mindset stop with the students and parents that just don't care? When will the circle of dependence on the government stop? When will they realize that education is the answer to a brighter future and not the streets?

20) Comment by prbeav - 11/02/2013

SuzanneMS has the right focus, and her concern extends right to the top. Quoting Barack Obama, 2nd Inaugural Address, January 21, 2013: “ . . . a modern economy requires . . . schools and colleges to train our workers.”>>>>Our education system needs to be revamped to focus on every person’s opportunity to achieve their psychological maturity, no matter how disadvantaged their start in life may have been. Instead the education system is focused on qualification for some labor slot expected at a chronological milestone, like age 18.>>>>I am not qualified to design education, but have thought about it. I’d start with reading, writing, and arithmetic then add reading with comprehension, writing about evidence with clarity, mathematics and logic, plain (not propagandized; like I'd teach the Salem "witch" executions) American history, and bases of understanding (study of evidence) then add life planning and survey courses in the fields of human understanding with enough information to give the student some basis for choosing areas for more intense study. I would design into this program the concept that humankind has been around for some 2 million years with perhaps 0.070 million years cultural evolution, involving perhaps 10 trillion man years of experience, and that each person has an opportunity of about 60 years during which he/she may discover his/her preferences and act on them--free themselves from their childhood indoctrination; it is each person’s duty to self to work toward the psychological maturity they prefer.>>>>With the educational system we have, recognizing that you would like to develop your body, your mind, and your life so that you may enjoy and humankind might benefit from your unique psychological maturity is nearly impossible. Our culture is tragic. We can change.

21) Comment by Attila - 11/02/2013

@SuzanneMS: I respectfully disagree. I don't are how much money you throw at education there is still going to be that certain percentage, and in this state it is approaching 40%, that you may as well be trying to educate a post. The educational process is not the problem. Their value system is the problem. It is a culture problem. Most of these kids have been raised to believe that the white man is his enemy when in reality if not for the white man all of that "government assistance" would not be nearly as generous. It has been said that all men are created equal. That may be so, but that is where it ends. After birth you are what you make of yourself. I think Dr. Benjamin Carson is a perfect example of what can be accomplished. Too bad more people don't emulate his perseverance and dedication to get out of poverty. Instead they blame everyone, but the one acutally responsible for their lot in life....themselves and their parents.

22) Comment by phil - 11/02/2013

Also HUD and other housing (see my comment).

23) Comment by phil - 11/02/2013

Generally speaking I think there are people who have figured how to skim a lot of money off of federal-government stimulus projects for profits of their own. In other words, if all of that money was being used wisely for regular infrastructure on all levels of government, then there would possibly be plenty of money available for intellectual infrastructure. Example=NMTCs, in my opinion.

24) Comment by J.R.Madden - 11/02/2013

In 2010, 1.4% of Louisiana households received public assistance income. Public assistance income provides cash payments to poor families and includes General Assistance and Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF). Public assistance income does not include Supplemental Security Income (SSI), noncash benefits such as Food Stamps/SNAP, or separate payments received for hospital or other medical care. To qualify for public assistance benefits, the income and assets of an individual or family must fall below specified thresholds. However, TANF benefits are time-limited, require most adult recipients to work, and give states increased flexibility in program design. (www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/acsbr10-13.pdf)

25) Comment by bourbon-soda - 11/02/2013

Edumacators implicitly want to consider everyone as labor when asking for more money to help develop the workforce, but not when threatened with accountability for inability to do so. A crucial component of critical thinking, is realizing that one is labor. Chop wood, carry water.

26) Comment by 8point6 - 11/02/2013

Why get an education/job when one can live off the "government". More babies, more money from the "government". ESPECIALLY, in the last four -plus years. JMO.

27) Comment by gary - 11/02/2013

Hey MA, I agree with this editoral 100% - Seriously. Now, that I've sucked up to youse' guys - how about opening the comment section of the Chief of Police article in today's paper?

28) Comment by SuzanneMS - 11/02/2013

And one of the attitude problems is that the purpose of an education is to train for a job; that we need "workforce development." That is called vocational training and it prepares you for a job. The purpose of an education is to learn how to think critically and that prepares you for life. People need both. One of the problems in Louisiana is that people trained for jobs and then the jobs changed, but they were not prepared to change with them. They only know which buttons to push and which levers to pull, and now that there are no more buttons and levers, they don't know what to do. They do not have the critical thinking skills to succeed in a knowledge-based economy. As long as Louisiana focuses on training for jobs rather than educating for life, this will remain a serious problem. And as long as Louisiana as a state persists in maintaining an underclass of citizens who are viewed as "labor," this will remain a serious problem. There are many reasons that students drop out of school, but a primary one is that they don't have any goals beyond getting "a job," or they have goals but no hope of achieving them.

29) Comment by bourbon-soda - 11/02/2013

Estimated illiteracy rate and per pupil expenditure rate by parish in Louisiana show a weak positive correlation, about 0.25. The more illiteracy, the more spent per pupil. In fairness, much of the increment may be for literal and figurative free lunches, rather than specifically educational programs. The advocate of more spending could also argue that there is some theoretical threshold of spending that would reduce illiteracy, not yet reached. I am not able to find any place that has tried, say, $30K per child to see what would happen.

30) Comment by Whatnow - 11/02/2013

Mildred, you are right. You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. That 40% does not care about education in the least. It's not all learning problems, it's attitude problems.

31) Comment by Mildred Citizen - 11/02/2013

40% of our kids drop out of high school. From their perspective, it is free. It didn't cost them a dime. They dropped out anyway. You cannot make people learn that do no care to. Ours is a culture that does not value education at the level of the lower class. Everyone wants to blame funding and leadership - and teachers. It is not a money problem - it is a cultural problem in our nation, but especially in our state.

32) Comment by bourbon-soda - 10/02/2013

Within the range of per pupil expenditure in the sample, there does not appear to be any significant relationship. I agree; it's just competing economic interests at the public trough.

33) Comment by Scrooge - 10/02/2013

So if state per pupil expenditure is insignificant then profit seeking and privatization will have an insignificant effect on educational outcomes and illiteracy unless reduction of spending per pupil is shown to have a positive effect. Oh well, maybe there are other factors besides economic?

34) Comment by bourbon-soda - 10/02/2013

I looked up state illiteracy rates and state per pupil expenditure and used Excel to correlate the two. There is about a minus 0.045 negative correlation. This is insignificant. If you correlate literacy and per pupil expenditure, it should come out positive 0.045, equally insignificant.