Our Views: Hard choices on GOP policy

On different levels, the loss — for many Republicans, the unexpected loss — of the 2012 presidential election provokes analysis that is needed but also conclusions that may be difficult to make into party policy anytime soon.

One big example is the voting of Hispanic immigrants. Exit polls suggested that Hispanic voters supported President Barack Obama by 44 percentage points, up eight points from 2008’s election.

A report on the prospect of rising numbers of voters who have Latin American roots provides a basis for discussion: “Hispanics are an ever-important part of the electorate that can’t be ignored. The scope of the challenge is broad, but there is opportunity ahead for conservatives to engage,” Jennifer S. Korn of the Hispanic Leadership Network, a Republican-funded group designed to do outreach, wrote in a memo quoted in The Washington Post.

In 2004, George W. Bush tied in the Hispanic vote in Texas and lost in Arizona by 13 percentage points. Mitt Romney lost the Hispanic vote by more than 40 points in both states, worth 49 electoral votes.

Yet Romney’s overall win in both states this year suggests another point: Demographic changes work slowly, in political terms, as there is always another election right around the corner. Democrats who see an inevitable “blue Dixie” in Texas are likely to be disappointed in the near term.

At the same time, we note a name — George W. Bush — that was almost absent from political discourse, except in Democrats’ attack ads.

Bush, a Spanish speaker, and others in the GOP made outreach to Hispanic voters a key. The party’s right made immigrant-bashing a festival in the primaries this election cycle. Romney pilloried one of his primary opponents, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, for sensible decisions that helped children of illegal immigrants get an education.

So choices matter, not purely outreach.

Romney’s primary rhetoric ignored the impressions upon voters made by policy decisions — such as whether students of Hispanic origin are welcome in American classrooms. Yet a significant part of the party’s base demands their exclusion on the grounds that their parents are illegal immigrants.

That view is represented in the Senate by those who characterize immigration reform as “amnesty” for illegals, as does U.S. Sen. David Vitter, R-La.

“I believe we need to lead by pushing for real immigration reform: better securing our borders, a better naturalization process for immigrants who are trying to become citizens the right way, and enabling states and cities with the ability to enforce the immigration laws already on the books,” Vitter said in his contribution to this post-election debate.

Another view was offered by LSU professor Bob Mann, who formerly worked for leading Louisiana Democrats. Mann, author of an invaluable history of the U.S. Senate and the civil rights movement, noted that Democrats’ courtship of the black vote in the 1950s and 1960s was not just a matter of legislation.

“Even the Republicans’ high-profile, vital role in passing the 1964 Civil Rights Act earned them little lasting affection from blacks after the 1964 GOP nominee, Barry Goldwater, voted against the bill and his party opposed Johnson’s Great Society,” Mann noted in a column for Reuters.

He chronicled a “long, contentious courtship of black voters (that) suggests a successful Republican effort to win over Hispanics might take many years, perhaps a decade or more. A quick-fix approach may yield little.”

Who is right?

Parties are often reluctant to change deeply held opinions, and in general that is a good thing. But today’s discussion is about an urgent political dilemma: Will the Republican Party embrace change or double-down on the policies that resulted in an electoral college rout in key states with large Hispanic populations?

“Selling out our principles wholesale for potential political expediency is not the answer,” Vitter said.

That choice might not matter in the next election, but as the Hispanic share of the electorate rises, that and other policy stands must be evaluated anew by the GOP.


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Comments (29)


1) Comment by InPVille - 29/11/2012

@DMJ: 16 Trillion Debt, nearly 43 trillion in unfunded Medicare liability, 20.5 unfunded Social Security liability and others leading to well over 80 trillion dollars in debt and unfunded liabilities. Add to that declining birth rates which means fewer working in the future to support the entitlement fiasco. The world situation is not what it was at the end of WWII which allowed us to grow our way out. You have the White House and the Senate. Neither of the two is willing to discuss any reduction in spending only an increase in taxes which will in no way stop the flow of red ink. You won. Now enjoy your booby prize.

2) Comment by DMJ - 29/11/2012

Tea Party get bigger and stronger?? Hahahahahahahaha!!! Good luck with that, patriots.

3) Comment by Whatnow - 29/11/2012

I'm with Vitter on this one. If Republicans change their stance to get votes, then they might as well change parties. Then the Tea Party will just get bigger and stronger.

4) Comment by Being_Stupid - 29/11/2012

I have never met a Latino-American that can speak Latin. Not yet.

5) Comment by Being_Stupid - 29/11/2012

I AM AMERICAN. Please do not ask if I am African American, Pacific American, Native American, Caucasian American, European American, Asian American, or Hispanic American. I AM AMERICAN.

6) Comment by Being_Stupid - 29/11/2012

Hispanic = Made up race by Democrat Socialist Communist Party to further divide and conquer America.

7) Comment by Being_Stupid - 29/11/2012

Basically if you speak Spanish then you are a Hispanic. What happens if I speak French or German?

8) Comment by rgeraldwallace@cox.net - 29/11/2012

InPVille has it right, i.e. Mexico doesn't want to share in the cost of anything. There's no such thing as welfare in Mexico, much less the largesse it's citizens find here. What's amazing is that they feel free to comment on our internal affairs and even prezume to dictate how even more of our money is spent on their citizens that sneak into our country. And why not? Our "government" is now running commercials in Mexico to educate the potential illegals to the benefits that are owed to them by the US people.

9) Comment by tradewinns - 29/11/2012

forget the politics, what will happen if the border is not sealed? the illegal immigration will continue to increase; we will have an overabundance of less than skilled workers; the employment of our own "unskilled" labor will sky rocket (immigrants will work for less); our cost of taking care of our own will also sky rocket; taxes will have to be increased just to pay for the increase in the unemployed; or the debt will have to be rapidly increased; society will lose it's ability to improve itself due to lack of money; we will regress.

10) Comment by agagent - 29/11/2012

With porous borders any talk of immigration reform is futile. As many in Washington think of ways to grant amnesty we will still have waves of illegal immigrants (and possibly some terrorists and many drug cartel members) crossing our borders. Are they just thinking of votes and not the safety of the country?

11) Comment by agagent - 29/11/2012

When Republicans were in control in Washington they spent too much and added too much debt. Then Democrats took control of Congress in January, 2007, and they have been much worst. Democrats have had the balance of power or complete control in Washington for almost 6 years, and they set new spending records and added record amounts to the national debt. Now the Advocate is worried about what Republicans will do instead of worrying about the Democrats’ spending and debt.

12) Comment by slye753 - 29/11/2012

blacks, latinos, asians, social parasites and registered voters that reside in the cemeteries will keep the dems in office for awhile. at least until they bring America down to its knees, which seems to be in our near future. but for now stay happy and keep laughing.

13) Comment by InPVille - 28/11/2012

@regeraldwallace: ". . . why not merge the two major parties into one! After that we can stop having elections at all; the media can annoint whomever their masters choose and it'll all be Koombaya forever and ever." -[**]- Yeah! All we have to do is continue to ignore the $16 Trillion Dollar national debt, $42.8 Trillion dollar unfunded Medicare liability, $20.5 trillion dollar unfunded Social Security liability, and etc. all growing daily by the way. As you said: "no problemo". -[**]- We saw that the effect the last time general amnesty was granted to the "illegals" then in the country was more illegals. We could let La Raza have their wish and return the American Southwest to Mexico or go beyond just merging the two major U.S. political parties and just merge the U.S. and Mexico into one great nation. My grandfather Carlos isn't with us any longer. So I can't ask him. But I am sure he would approve. . . well, perhaps?! It would certainly solve our amnesty problem. But I doubt Mexico would want to take on their share of the burden of the U.S. debt and unfunded liabilities.

14) Comment by J.R.Madden - 28/11/2012

The US Census uses Hispanic or Latino to refer to "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race." There are black Hispanics, white HIspanics, Native American Hispanics, a President of Peru was Japanese Hispanic!

15) Comment by DMJ - 28/11/2012

Republicans are missing the point. Immigration reform shouldn't be co-opted because it'll get more votes; it should be adopted because it's the smart, right thing to do. Do that and the votes will follow. This whole We Lost so Let's Woo Hispanics thing seems incredibly disingenous.

16) Comment by nimby? - 28/11/2012

shouldn't it be American-Hispanic ?

17) Comment by Being_Stupid - 28/11/2012

Newt Gingrich had a good policy on Immigration Reform. Seal up the border, make it impossible for anymore illegals to come into this country. Then AFTER THE BORDER IS CLOSED, grant amnesty and citizenship to those law-abiding illegals that are living here and are making an effort to live the American way.

18) Comment by Being_Stupid - 28/11/2012

I am not "Hispanic American". I AM AMERICAN.

19) Comment by Being_Stupid - 28/11/2012

What is a Hispanic? Is this some sort of made up race by the Democrat Socialist Party to further divide up Americans?

20) Comment by DMJ - 28/11/2012

Reagan offered amnesty. And conservatives adore him so much they think about him when they're with their spouses.

21) Comment by rgeraldwallace@cox.net - 28/11/2012

The glee disguised as thoughtful concern that "Our Views" expresses for the GOP is heartwarming; why not merge the two major parties into one! After that we can stop having elections at all; the media can annoint whomever their masters choose and it'll all be Koombaya forever and ever. No problemo, Hispanics; you'll be ruled benignly by your betters, i.e. the democrats' cabal of welfare warriors, Obamaphone champions, community organizers, and the union bosses.

22) Comment by Old Man Kensey - 28/11/2012

I agree T Slayer, agagent missed his calling. He would have made a fortune as a comedian.. well, maybe minimum wage, but anyway...

23) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 28/11/2012

and the hits keep coming.... according to agagent's latest diatribe, in order for minorities to join the conservative club, they must be rich...country club conservatism at its best.

24) Comment by agagent - 28/11/2012

When Democrats are in control: “The city is already in bankruptcy proceedings and facing a $45.8-million budget shortfall. The $26 million in cuts will help the troubled city stay afloat.”--LA Times

25) Comment by agagent - 28/11/2012

According to the Advocate Republicans need to keep unemployment high among Hispanics, just like the Democrat policies do, to get more Hispanic votes. If you are conservative and a member of a minority you are a target of the media and not praised for your great achievements.

26) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 28/11/2012

ah, more satire from agagent. I almost spit out my coffee, I was laughing so hard.

27) Comment by agagent - 28/11/2012

After winning the election Obama left Washington to campaign for tax increases equal to about 8 days worth of federal spending, leaving the work of governing to others. Democrats have held complete control or the balance of power in Washington since January, 2007. The results of their policies are coming home to roost. Why write about Republicans when it is time for Democrats to show us how they will handle the trillion dollar plus annual deficits their policies have created?

28) Comment by 8point6 - 28/11/2012

IMO, the Republican party will never "win over" hispanic/black voters. It doesn't matter what the party does for minorities. The news media will continue to report only negative articles toward the Republican party as they have been doing for the last 50 plus years. It's called "divide and conquer". hussein is doing an excellent job at that.

29) Comment by KilgoreTrout - 27/11/2012

What was it necessary for the Republican party to degenerate into lunacy? I can't see voting for lunatics, me. BTW, Vitter is certainly the authority on “Selling out our principles wholesale for potential political expediency ..."