Letters: Gay marriage overblown issue

After North Carolina voted to ban gay marriage, comedian Lewis Black appeared on Piers Morgan’s CNN show to comment on the law.

His interview was preceded by a video segment of one of his 1996 routines, during which he ridiculed the amount of effort being given then to banning gay marriage.

Black stated gay marriage, “Is No. 50 on the list of things that Americans should be worried about, right behind whether we eat too much garlic as a nation.”

The following are some of the things I think Americans should be concerned about:

  • The retirement of the “baby-boomer” generation is about to explode, and none of our federal “trust funds” contain anything but federal debt paper, which is simply a demand on future taxpayers.
  • We are in a severe economic slowdown because of the fragile state of investment finance, which came about because of the failure of regulators to properly monitor financial institutions and for which no quick or lasting remedy can be found.
  • Millions of Americans face financial disaster should they suffer a serious illness or injury, or find themselves wrongfully accused of a crime.
  • A very large segment of the American populace is credulous enough to go to war on nothing more than the word of a president and trusted pundits. What’s more, we have a “system” of government that allows such things to happen.

In spite of these rather serious problems, a large number of Americans still think gay marriage should be a major presidential campaign issue.

To give some perspective on this, I would like Americans to imagine that we can travel across time and use this power to go back and observe the original constitutional convention, with a delegation from 2012 participating.

We see a group of solemn men engaged in animated, intellectual debate. We hear Benjamin Franklin state, “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety,” while someone echoes Thomas Jefferson by stating “Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the boisterous sea of liberty.”

Then someone from the 2012 delegation pipes up and says, “Hey! We gotta have a provision that bans gay marriage! Otherwise the country will be doomed! DOOMED, I tell ya!”

The room falls silent. Franklin, Washington and the rest of the founders turn and face the 2012 delegation. They have looks of shock and bewilderment on their faces.

But then their expressions fade to looks of patient indulgence, as the 2012 delegation is quietly ushered from the room.

And as each delegate makes his exit, he is handed a giant lollipop and given a kick in the seat of his pants.

Wayne L. Parker

technical writer

Greensburg


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Comments (44)


1) Comment by Whatnow - 25/05/2012

And you are a bigot against Christians. We don't want to force others, but we want should allowed to be heard and if society agrees to it, then so be it. We have no choice. But, it should be agreed by them also if we win. And right now it is up to the people and the states. Sorry, I just know that being gay and gay marriage is not normal or natural.

2) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 25/05/2012

"Christians just don't want sinners to tell them how to live either. " So exactly how does gay marriage force you to live your life differently? It doesn't. You want to force others to adhere to your bible's (selective) teachings. That is the bigotry...

3) Comment by Whatnow - 24/05/2012

Bigot is also a word used by sinners to justify their sin. Who's persecuting sinners? Not me nor any Christian that I know. Sinners can sin all they want. It's their choice. Christians just don't want sinners to tell them how to live either. Bible Bigot.

4) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 24/05/2012

bigot is a word made by man to describe "christians" who use their "religion" as a shield to persecute others.

5) Comment by Whatnow - 23/05/2012

nimby? I would love to hear about the son who walked with the twelve. Learning is never a bad thing. It's what we do with what we've learned that counts. Do you have a reference that would help? Yes, our brothers, the Indians, (my ancestor, Elizabeth Rachel JACKSON* 1726 - 1791 was Cherokee), were treated horribly, but all races through time have been treated badly and we can all dwell on the past and stagnate or try to make the world a better place. Dwelling on past injustices only brings hate. We are better than that, aren't we? We can teach hate or we can move on. @Tea_Slayer, bigot is a word made by man to describe Christianity. Then I'm a Bible bigot. That's fine with me. You say that like it's an insult. LOL! Social norms are not what counts.

6) Comment by nimby? - 23/05/2012

Whatnow , the problem I have with christians is their perception theirs is the only religion . I am Lakota , I believe in the most holy grandfather , wakan tanka , and the son who walked with the twelve . 'good christians" in their greed committed many acts of depravity on women and children in their attempted genocide of my people . we were rounded up , placed on parcels of land unfit for anything , given tainted meat and diseased blankets . when crops would not grow we were told to eat grass , all this under the watchful supervision of "good christians" , but hey , we're savages , heathen . christians want to talk of their religion without hearing of yours . they resort to passages of preference while ignoring others , hypocrisy ? I have a chiltons bible for a 74 VW superbeetle , yet to find any references towards gays ....

7) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 23/05/2012

"A lot of people use the term hypocrisy to justify their own actions and thoughts. " Even more people use the term christian to justify their own bigoted actions and thoughts...

8) Comment by Whatnow - 23/05/2012

@nimby, the Bible is the only way that we can know Christ. Christ has explicitly spoken about sin and forgiveness. But, he also says to sin no more. Forgiveness comes to any who are sincere in asking for forgiveness. Most Bibles that I've read do not change the meaning of Christ's word. They only make his word easier to understand in modern day language so that more will come to know him. Sinners who want to justify their sins are not sincere when reading the Bible. They want a way out. Christ did come to change a lot of the old laws and to teach love one another, but he also taught that the only way to everlasting life was through him and asking for forgiveness and to sinning no more. Man will always sin, but forgiveness come to only those who are saved and sincere and try to sin no more. We are not here to judge men's souls. We can only judge who's company to keep. Christ was around sinners to help them see the light. If they refused, he wiped the dust from his feet and moved on to those who wanted that light, as should we. A lot of people use the term hypocrisy to justify their own actions and thoughts.

9) Comment by nimby? - 22/05/2012

which bible are you referring to ? there are many these days . man in his infinite wisdom to court different denominations has turned it into a work of convenience/fiction . do you follow it word for word ? you confuse love with lust . I'm guessing deviant , perverted , unnatural acts behind the closed doors of married hetero couples is acceptable . my furry children are family , most were strays dumped by people who no longer cared for them , very christian . their love is unconditional . they don't lie , cheat or steal . doesn't mean I plan on marrying any of them . the hypocrisy of the christian is confusing , leaves me wondering why they can't act more like christ , he is the answer , not the church or its' amended doctrines ...

10) Comment by phil - 22/05/2012

I DO get it! Maybe you should press the courts to allow you to marry your furry children. I will pray for you too and hope you actually read the Bible regarding the subject of homosexuality. It is actually very clear on the subject.

11) Comment by nimby? - 21/05/2012

actually I too prefer the company of my furry children to that of many human beings .....

12) Comment by nimby? - 21/05/2012

sorry you don't get it , I will pray for you ....

13) Comment by phil - 21/05/2012

every tuesday morning I share coffee with a young lady who is 87 and her cute poodle. They've been together over 7 years .. the way they look at each other , the love they share , I hardly see in most couples, but hey .... Also I personally never said anyone was going to rot in hell. We might all actually rot in hell but that is not a decision we will make.

14) Comment by nimby? - 20/05/2012

every tuesday morning I share coffee with two young ladies , one 87 the other 84 . they've been together over 50 years . in the true christian spirit these are two of the finest people I've ever met . they visit the shut ins , still tend the garden at the church they attend . the way they look at each other , the love they share , I hardly see in most hetero couples . but hey Phil , they're just a couple of perverted ol' lessies who'll rot in hell , right ? and by the way , the majority of pedophiles are not gay , just child rapist ....

15) Comment by phil - 20/05/2012

Glad the writer listed the five things to be worried about. I am just not sure where in the list of the 5 gay marriage fits in, but it is way up there at the top with the other 4 things listed. People are really not that gullible. You just can't make most people think that the result of perverted sex should be perverted marriage.

16) Comment by Whatnow - 20/05/2012

Same goes to you, bully.

17) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 20/05/2012

you may want to ACTUALLY read your own definition before making false accusations.

18) Comment by Whatnow - 20/05/2012

And neither do you, Tea_Slayer. Bullying is a form of aggressive behavior manifested by the use of force or coercion to affect others, particularly when the behavior is habitual and involves an imbalance of power. It can include verbal harassment, physical assault or coercion and may be directed repeatedly towards particular victims, perhaps on grounds of race, religion, gender, sexuality, or ability. The "imbalance of power" may be social power and/or physical power. The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a "target" Bullying consists of three basic types of abuse – emotional, verbal, and physical. It typically involves subtle methods of coercion such as intimidation. .Practice what you preach, hypocrite.

19) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 20/05/2012

speaking of puritans busybodies, whatnow thinks he is being bullied. Obviously he doesn't understand the concept.

20) Comment by Whatnow - 19/05/2012

And speaking of bullying.... TeaSlayer. Did you teach that to your kids?

21) Comment by nimby? - 19/05/2012

note , marriage isn't just about sex but a union of two willing to share life/commitment together . I'm sure "un-natural" acts are going behind the closed doors of perfectly normal hetero couples , nudge , nudge , grin , grin , wink , wink , say no more ......

22) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 19/05/2012

CaptainHaddock, Quit making Whatnow cry. Puritans are so fragile

23) Comment by TheTardis - 19/05/2012

What makes straight people so special that they deserve the special right to get married and all the other special rights that go along with it? You get to leave all your money to your spouse, but I have to pay a huge tax. You can visit your spouse in the hospital with no problem, but I can be denied that right by his family. You can sponsor your spouse for citizenship if he/she is an immigrant, but mine can be deported if his visa expires. Why do you think you and your spouse deserve these special rights, but my spouse and I don't? The fact that you aren't even willing to find some kind of compromise that would solve these issues for other human beings that are different than you makes me wonder what kind of heart you really have.

24) Comment by Whatnow - 19/05/2012

Okay, Captain Haddock, you have told us how you believe, so as a golden rule "person", and equal rights for all, you should also respect my right to voice my opinion without crude remarks, name calling and your "do as i say cause what i belive trumps who you are" approach.

25) Comment by CaptainHaddock - 19/05/2012

Well lets see - what does that make me? Well i think all adults in our great nation should be given equal protection under the law, even people with whos personal lifestyle or orientation i disagree - even puritan busybodies. I dont want any group singled out for exclusion because my choice to (very selectively) believe in one particular religious creed out of thousands instructs me to exercise puritan busybodyism - that being the self appointed role of cultural moral guardian with the blunt instrument of big intrusive govt as my tool. I dont think anyones moral status is defined by their personal sexual habits (thats the puritan bit) and i would never advocate using big intrusive govt to impose my (very selective) religious morality over others via the supposedly secular universal instrument of civil law. Thats the busybody bit. You see, although not really religious, i do kinda try to adhere to this golden rule thing. Your puritan busybody disagrees usualky, preferring more of a "do as i say cause what i belive trumps who you are" approach. I hope you and all puritan busybodies forever enjoy all the rights privelidges and legal protections you have labored to deny others since our great nation was (suppsedly) founded on the ideal of equal protection under the law for all.

26) Comment by twinkie1cat - 19/05/2012

Bethany is a hate group. We have gotten people at my church from Bethany who were kicked out for arguing theology with the pastor and others who were severely damaged by that group. Beware of false teachers and false prophets who come to mislead even the elect. Beware of conservatives who call themselves Christians, have a lot of money, and don't tell the truth about Jesus.

27) Comment by twinkie1cat - 19/05/2012

Yes it is. We need to go on and let it happen. That way everyone will have equal rights and these senseless fights against them will go away. Louisiana Family Forum will be put in its place. We can go back to working on things that matter. Plus the state will make some money off of a whole new group of marriage licenses.

28) Comment by Whatnow - 18/05/2012

And what does that make you CaptainHaddock? It's okay for you to give your opinion and not me? How come I'm a busy body but you aren't? Huh? Why? Or only when we agree, right? Do I come on here and call you names? Why do liberals always do that when someone disagrees with them? Yes, I am married and in a committed, monogamous relationship for most of my life with the same person of opposite sex and have children like it was meant to be. I could be in the same kind of relationship with a racoon, but that would be against nature, now wouldn't it? Or would it have to be the same sex as me? Justify yourselves all you want. But, I just happen to disagree. And I said my opinion without insults to any of you.

29) Comment by Preppy6917 - 18/05/2012

Luckily, Bethany is building a new PAC in the middle of town to combat this gay thing.

30) Comment by warreni - 18/05/2012

Mr. Parker is right, as usual. Imagine, gays being able to use the "m" word. Pretty soon people will be cursing their parents, working on Saturdays, eating meat on Fridays, not praying five times a day, and all sorts of other things that may be against someone's religious beliefs! And in AMERICA, of all places!!

31) Comment by CaptainHaddock - 18/05/2012

Important note about Mr Stupid - he does a nice line in far right satire, but its for a laugh. I was once taken in myself. Now I always reread his user name, and remember his tongue is in his cheek (or someone elses). Whatnow is juspt your standard issue puritan busybody.

32) Comment by TheTardis - 18/05/2012

So ***** and Whatnow, you two also must not be married b/c it's immoral to be in a committed, monogomous relationship right? ***** having OCD like you do, about evil neighborhood associations and Democrats and teacher unions being socialist, is definitely a mental illness. I hope you don't have children.

33) Comment by Being_Stupid - 18/05/2012

The American Psychiatric Association declassified Homosexuality as a mental illness in 1973. I wonder what other mental illnesses will be declassified by the American Psychiatric Association in my lifetime? I think Bipolar and Schizophrenia should be declassified too. These are all completely normal behaviors. It is Politically Incorrect to label these human behaviors as mental illnesses.

34) Comment by Being_Stupid - 18/05/2012

The next step will be teaching kids in grade school that it is okay to grow up and be gay.

35) Comment by DMJ - 18/05/2012

I'd say that gay people who wish to marry the person they love but can't because of bigoted laws passed by elected officals might disagree over how trivial the issue is. And it's not as though those other issues are taking a back seat until we figure the whole gay marriage thing out. Our elected officials have to consider many topics simultaneously. If they only debated the most important topic, they'd spend their time arguing about which topic to debate and nothing would get done. I usually agree with your letters, Wayne, but not this time.

36) Comment by Whatnow - 18/05/2012

@rgeraldwallace, yep, you nailed it.

37) Comment by smith47 - 18/05/2012

You would probably not think it was an overblown issue if you couldn't marry the person you wanted to marry.

38) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 18/05/2012

I think the idea that gay marriage is "forcing society mores to crumble" is a red herring to hide the latest "popular" bigotry of the religious fundamentalists.

39) Comment by TheTardis - 18/05/2012

So now being in a monogomous committed relationship is immoral? So I guess you're not married gerald b/c that would be immoral.

40) Comment by rgeraldwallace@cox.net - 18/05/2012

I think "gay marriage" is more about forcing society mores to crumble than anything to do with what two homosexuals want to call their "union".

41) Comment by arin - 18/05/2012

Hey bourbon, I see your point. LOL

42) Comment by bourbon-soda - 18/05/2012

Who came up with that headline (no pun intended)?

43) Comment by Wallop - 18/05/2012

As silly as the issue may be, look how much air time it gets with certain pundits.

44) Comment by Bighug - 18/05/2012

Amen to everything in your letter, Mr. Parker.