Evaluator defends not renewing own teacher certificate

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“My job does not require that I go into the classroom and teach right now.” Molly horstman, director of Compass, the state program to evaluate teachers

The director of Louisiana’s controversial new system to evaluate public school teachers had her own teaching certificate lapse.

“My teaching certificate is not active right now,” said Molly Horstman, who oversees the new review setup that state officials call Compass, Thursday.

Horstman, who spent two years in a New Orleans classroom, said the lack of a teaching certificate has nothing to do with her current post, which pays $77,000 per year.

“My job does not require that I go into the classroom to teach right now,” she said.

Horstman, 27, said she did not take the steps needed to renew her certificate, which is typically required for teachers every few years.

But state Rep. Pat Smith, D-Baton Rouge, said Horstman should have a teaching certificate so that, if required to do so, she could enter a classroom and demonstrate proper teaching methods “to provide the kind of assistance a teacher would need.”

“I would think that if a person is going to be dealing with the evaluation of thousands of teachers that we have in the state, they ought to be able to go into a classroom,” Smith said.

“And if that person is unable to do that, they should not be on that job.”

Smith is a member of the state House Education Committee, a former member of the East Baton Rouge Parish School Board and is chairwoman of the Legislative Black Caucus.

The new teacher reviews stem from a 2010 law pushed by Gov. Bobby Jindal, which was vehemently opposed by teacher unions.

It is supposed to improve student achievement by linking annual job reviews in part with how students fare in the classroom.

Under previous rules, teachers went through formal reviews every three years.

All but a handful routinely won satisfactory ratings.

However, about 60,000 public school teachers are undergoing the new evaluations in the current school year.

Under the change, half of a teacher’s review will be linked to growth of student achievement as measured by standardized tests or goals that teachers and evaluators agree on.

The other half of the review will be based on classroom observations.

Joyce Haynes, president of the Louisiana Association of Educators, said it is bothersome that “someone does not think it (active certification) is important enough and is putting together a program that looks at us.

“We believe in certified, caring, committed leaders in every classroom.”

State Rep. Frank Hoffmann, R-West Monroe, one of the sponsors of the 2010 law, downplayed the significance of Horstman’s lack of a current teaching license.

“She has chosen not to teach,” Hoffmann said.

Horstman is a 2007 graduate of Barnard College in New York City.

She moved to Louisiana and taught for two years at Reed Elementary School in New Orleans as part of the state-run Recovery School District.

Horstman was a member of Teach for America, which is a national program that recruits top-flight college graduates, puts them through five weeks of intense training and sends them to mostly troubled schools for at least two years.

She then worked for the RSD’s central office in New Orleans, the state Department of Education and, since February, as state director of Louisiana’s new teacher review system.

Horstman said that, under a separate new law, she would have to be rated as “effective” for three years to renew her teaching certificate.


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1) Comment by MarkDavidson - 03/02/2013

I am surprised with a comment by her that "My job does not require that I go into the classroom to teach right now". I don't understand the reason behind this and I would definitely pull my kid from state schools. I think the FTCE has to be compulsory for all teachers. It will help not only to achieve success for students but also for teachers. What is important for students is not to scaling them but provide a quality education. I hope she has some idea about a quality education and will review again FTCE.<a href="http://florida-teachingsolutions.com">FTCE test</a>

2) Comment by Iamhopeful2 - 12/10/2012

You can find John White's claim that Horstman is erroneously portrayed in this article as head of the teacher eval debacle. An interesting and candid exchange between a state teacher of the year and Mr. White. Note his second response. I wonder if he asked the Advocate for a correction to this story. http://www.geauxteacher.net/2012/10/geaux-teacher-tonguis.html

3) Comment by IMVOR - 09/10/2012

Teach in Philly, this is nothing new. It is how the whole state is run. The governor calls all the shots and does all the hiring either directly or indirectly. And the governor is in Las Vegas or somewhere running for his next office. Beware! It is probably a national one.

4) Comment by I Teach in Philly - 04/10/2012

And we thought we had problems in Philadelphia! Absolutely hilarious -- be sure to check out her "professional" photo on LinedIn. Gives some real insight into how she really is http://www.linkedin.com/pub/molly-horstman/2a/b2b/190 The teachers, parents and students of Louisiana have my sympathy if this is what education is coming to in your state.

5) Comment by timesright - 03/10/2012

Just so you know, this new hire story is getting some national attention by bloggers across the country. The blogging is not by any means praising the hiring decisions. Here is a link to just one..... http://jerseyjazzman.blogspot.com/2012/10/they-do-not-think-teachers-are.html

6) Comment by Noel Hammatt - 29/09/2012

@gatorteacher: I don't have information on her scores, since I don't know what grade level or subject she taught, but I do know this. It was, Reed Elementary, run by the RSD, was by every measure these reformers like to use, A FAILING SCHOOL. In the Fall of 2008 the score for her school was a dismal 39.4 SPS before the infamous "cleaning up of scores." (They basically removed low scoring students to get better scores.) But wait, it gets better. The NEW and Improved Baseline SPS based on two years, 2006-2007 and 2007-2008 was a whopping..... 49.6 SPS! Wow, huh? And the next year, after she had a year under her belt, the school finished up (they had a 10 point SPS gain as a goal) with an awe-inspiring 50.3 SPS! Smokin', huh? They gained a total of.... 0.7 points on their SPS. At any rate, the school was closed some time after she left, and reconstituted as, drum roll please... A Charter School! Of course, we have NO SCORES for the new school, because, as many have figured out, these former TFA folks are pretty bright! They never include the lowest performing students (or schools) in their data, and of course, it is even easier if you never admit them to your school in the first place! For example, the NEW and IMPROVED ReNEW Reed Elementary Charter has almost 7.8% of students with special needs. (A lot less than most of our schools!) But there is an interesting piece of data in the RSD Equity Report for this school. It opened in 2011-2012, with 7.8% Students with Disabilities (Their term, not mine) yet it also states, in the very next chart, that only 7.4% of the students are new to the school! So, if I do my math right, 0.4% of the Students with Disabilities were actually living in the school before they opened? Wow! I guess then, from available date, we can ascertain that she had a perfect opportunity to watch failure in action. (To be fair, I should point out that I DO NOT have any evidence that suggests that SPS scores mean ANYTHING. They certainly don't give us even a CLUE as to the quality of teaching in school. Still, it is FUN to hoist these so- called "reformers" on their own petards."

7) Comment by RRW3 - 29/09/2012

Expect to see a letter to the editor from John White spewing "It's all about the kids," along with criticisms of any criticisms directed at the State Department. Criticize or ask hard questions about any aspect of ridiculousness that emanates from downtown Baton Rouge, then get slapped with the pro-union and anti-reform label. Please, please, why can't we get some level of common sense in government, democratic or republican?

8) Comment by gatorteacher - 29/09/2012

I wonder how her test students' scores were in her "extensive" teaching career? Could you publish this information? Our school's scores are published each year - and that is 50% of my evaluation under Compass - so where would she fall on the scale we are now using? Surely, she is highly effective on both her observation and Value Added Score to get such an important statewide position.

9) Comment by redstickhornet - 29/09/2012

“My job does not require that I go into the classroom and teach right now.” Well, it should. I want to pull my child from a state school system that allows someone with 2 years experience and no teaching certificate to "evaluate" her teachers or school. I am so thankful my child will be in college soon the way K-12 ed in this state is going... Why does this issue matter? Here's why...SHE WORKS FOR LOUISIANA TAXPAYERS, not a private company. I can understand that private corps and orgs can require and do and pay what they want if someone can get results. No problem. Why is anyone surprised by this? These TFA "reformer" folks have been lauded and applauded and placed in a position to treat the public purse the same way a private or publicly traded company treats its own profits. This is what you get when you put these folks in charge of gov't. People, this kind of thing will continue. Union and local school board corruption has been replaced by corporate cronyism in the name of reform. Who can/will hold these folks accountable if real results do not quickly materialize? If promises are not kept? La. State departments run this way should be required to get immediate, transparent, and tangible results from their initiatives with NO EXCUSES MADE. They should get results with clearly evident savings and ROI for taxpayers. Will our legislators and BESE board members step up to the plate?

10) Comment by starley - 29/09/2012

Her boss is John White. He was a TFA teacher and only has 2 years teaching experience. If she had one more year, she would be more qualified than the state superintendent.

11) Comment by timesright - 29/09/2012

The Miss Molly Hortsman has no defense. If she thinks her defense is what she says it is, it is very, very weak indeed. The teachers in Louisiana have every reason to defend their position. The very idea that a 27 year old has the authority and the responsibility to say and determine what degreed, some with many, veteran teachers are doing right and doing wrong in their classrooms is the most disgusting of the many horrible decisions made at the LDOE. Does it surprise me that John White has chosen to bring on board someone of this caliber? Not at all. After all, it is not the ultimate goal of TFA alums to stay in the classroom but to have them move on up into decision and policy making positions, just as the almighty inexperienced TFA educator we have as the state superintendent has done. Educators, stand up! Make it perfectly clear as to your utter disgust for not only Miss Hortsman's hiring, but everything else that is WRONG with the education reforms.

12) Comment by Spudaroonski - 29/09/2012

Credentials, certificates, job experience, education. Silly people. It isn't what you know it's WHO you know and like Bouncer said I think Johnny and Molly know one another real well. Bet they could tell us where all the warts, moles and blemishes are each others bodies. Ummmm smells like education reform.

13) Comment by elheffie777 - 28/09/2012

By the way her degree is in Political Science and I recently sat through an all day HCIS (evaluation instrument) training with an associate in the department whose B.A. dregree is in cinema. Yes, cinema from USC.

14) Comment by danielf - 28/09/2012

Theres a lot more to this story than the girl simply not having a certification. Her only professional experience is A) she knew John White. B) 2 years experience teaching at a school run by John White. C) appointed by John White to be an executive at the RSD while he ran it.. and now she's in charge of the teacher evaluation program as soon as John White got in charge. This girl is only 27 and all she's ever done is work 3 years as an over-paid crony for John White. If anyone actually did investigating they would find out that she didn't actually work the position that she was paid for at RSD. Her degree in political science really is icing on the cake.

15) Comment by teacherguy - 28/09/2012

I have no clue why any of you are surprised by this!

16) Comment by Traveler - 28/09/2012

Does any reader out there have a connection to anyone who works for a network news program? This situation would make a great investigative news story for CNN or "60 Minutes," and so on. Considering some of the material that makes it to the national news, the question of how this woman achieved such a high-profile job at taxpayer expense should be very interesting to a national news investigative reporter (unless somebody with lots of power in Louisiana state government squelches it, of course!).

17) Comment by Chucky - 28/09/2012

Do not worry Molly Horstman this will be forgotten and will all blow over. We will be outraged about something else, in one or two days and you will be left alone.

18) Comment by lovemykids - 28/09/2012

This is appalling!! I have a friend with a masters in statistics and teaches at BRMHS. She had a student that was recognized by the United States as an excellent student and invited her to accompany him to a reception at the White House. It is an insult to teachers of her caliber to be evaluated by this person. This is just another sad day in Louisiana brought on by Jindal and his accessories.

19) Comment by Iamhopeful2 - 28/09/2012

This woman has no teaching certificate. She has a piece of paper created for TFA personnel that somehow makes them eligible for a temporary position in a classroom. A real certificate requires a degree in education, a practicum, several national teaching exams. John White made it clear to the Tangipahoa School Board that he sees no need for instructors to be certified teachers. Our AK legislators bowed to Jindal and passed a Law that says classroom instructors in charters do not have to be certified teachers. Don't know how they will get around Federal law that requires certified special Ed teachers - I guess they won't have classes for special education. This is all leading up to a lawsuit by teachers and the inevitable lawsuits by parents when something goes wrong in the classroom and the instructor is found to be libel and the state is complicit for sending unqualified people in. It's time for teachers to stand up for themselves and refuse to have their occupations stolen without a fight. Teachers will need to subpoena the student tests themselves along with the mathematical formulae for devising their eval scores. Due process. In the meantime, Jindal is bankrupting schools and hurting our children.

20) Comment by Bouncer - 28/09/2012

The explanation for this outrage (and for the new PR woman hired) is quite simple and very basic: Superintendent White is hittin' dat. They certainly weren't hired for their qualifications. All will be revealed in the fullness of time.

21) Comment by coachblades - 28/09/2012

This is my official application to John White and Bobby Jindal and the State Dept of Ed. Name: Coach Blades Years of Experience: 6 I am willing to lie, cheat, make up data/statistics. I can make anything sound good. I am willing to do anything (pretty much) I only require a salary of $80,000 I understand that being certified and having 6 years teaching experience may over qualify me for State Dept of Ed jobs but i promise i can be as ineffective as you want me to be.

22) Comment by deutsch29 - 28/09/2012

This article downplays Horstman's age. She is only 27 years old and in charge of a statewide teacher evaluation system. She is not even old enough to have earned the degrees and acquired the proper experience for such a position.

23) Comment by localgal - 28/09/2012

Horstman didn't have to renew her certificate. Would you renew yours if you could get a job which pays 3 times what you are making with TFA and gets you out of the worst school system in the state of Louisiana? She moved up to the central office of the RSD with a job that probably paid a heck of a lot more than teaching and then to the State Department of Education. Apparently, John White just wants a bunch of know-nothings who, just as civitasveritas stated, will just drink the Kool-Aid. No one above the local districts cares what happens to these students. They will just job hop their way to the highest bidder. It's the money, not the qualifications for the job. Show me the money.

24) Comment by smuchmore - 28/09/2012

This is an addendum to my comments. Horstman held a Level 1 certificate. It appears as if she just didn't want to take the six semester hours of continuing credit. I have a certificate with no expiration date and 30 years of teaching experience. My fate is now in the hands of 27 year-old who has taught a total of 2 years and doesn't even have the professional courtesy to renew her certificate. The house of cards is tippling as we speak. "A lapsed Level 1 certificate may be renewed once for an additional three years, upon request of the employing district or superintendent (or corresponding administrative officer of a private school system), or upon the presentation of six semester hours of resident, extension, or correspondence credit from a regionally accredited university." LDOE

25) Comment by smuchmore - 28/09/2012

If I remember correctly, Teach for America candidates are awarded a provisional teaching certificate at the end of a 2 year period of teaching in a classroom and completing a year-long seminar and portfolio. I think Ms. Horstman is not fully telling the truth when asked why she didn't renew her certificate. “My teaching certificate is not active right now,” said Molly Horstman, who oversees the new review setup that state officials call Compass, Thursday. This statement makes it appear the she has a certificate to renew. Check into this.

26) Comment by BRmoderate - 28/09/2012

Thanks for the info Localgal. I worked in a high school for 4 years. Had I known I was qualified to run the DOE...I would have applied. Next time I guess

27) Comment by civitasiveritas - 28/09/2012

You have got to be kidding. First post removed for a missing "i" in the word "doing." Now my re-post has been removed for failing the realize that the correct version of a famous spiritual will get one's post kicked off of The Advocate. Apparently lies are fine, but dare to use words that might, in the twisted morals of the machine that seeks out all demons from our verbiage, cause a raised eyebrows, and you are looking at the infamous ****Comment Removed for Violation of Terms of Use**** Again, it is problematic that she has neither the experience nor the degrees one would expect to see in this position, but the real problem is much deeper. Why is it that a certain leader is so insecure in his experience, credentials and knowledge that he dares not hire true experts to work for him. Is he really that insecure that he wants only those people who will quietly accept that rather generous checks and drink the Kool-Aid? By the way, at the risk of getting bumped again I will spell out the name of the song these people must be singing up there at the Department of Education while drinking the Kool-Aid. Admittedly, their words must be quite different, but you will recognize the song. Koombahyah. Look up traditional spellings of the word and you will realize how arcane the computer search is. White lies.

28) Comment by deutsch29 - 28/09/2012

YOU ARE NOT READING THE ENTIRE STORY: Molly Horstman has not held a job longer than 1 yr 10 months (see her Linkeln bio). Her longest job was with the D-rated RSD. Her teaching certificate (a Level I certificate expired in 09/11) WAS NOT RENEWED BECAUSE SHE LACKED THE ASSESSMENT REQUIRED FOR RENEWAL. Incredible irony!

29) Comment by civitasiveritas - 28/09/2012

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30) Comment by civitasiveritas - 28/09/2012

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31) Comment by public_educator - 28/09/2012

Just checked Linkedin. She has a BA in Political Science and no graduate degree. She was a certified elementary school teacher. I would hope that a person in this position would have a PhD in statistics with significant education experience. And a teaching certificate.

32) Comment by gmanderson - 28/09/2012

america is a great country. full of opportunity for just about everybody.

33) Comment by localgal - 28/09/2012

BR moderate: Don't know how much you know about Teach For America, but the overwhelming marjority of those teaching in the program do not have teaching degrees nor have they had to take the Praxis or be evaluated by any of the other standard teaching evaluations. RSD's are pretty much a law unto themselves and John White's record as superintendent of the N.O. RSD was dismal. There was really no appreciable difference in the school scores or the LEAP or GEE scores in the RSD schools as compared to those in other school districts. In fact, many of them were worse. Of course, you really have to dig to find the real stats and not the cherry-picked ones put out by the propaganda machine that is now our State Department of Education.

34) Comment by BRmoderate - 28/09/2012

I kinda understand not renewing her certificate because her duties do not require her to be indirect contact with students. What SHOCKS me is that she only has TWO years experience!!! Was her degree in education??? I pray it is...

35) Comment by nolakitty - 28/09/2012

"However, about 60,000 public school teachers are undergoing the new evaluations...." The new evaluations are for EVERY teacher, aren't they? Don't we have more than 60,000 teachers in the state?

36) Comment by 8.3 - 28/09/2012

"probably just the tip of the iceberg" here' s another look up Dave Lefkowith's bio he is in charge of content for the choice program. He gets large fees for motivational speaking... it is an an impressive biography but but the educational experience must be listed somewhere else..? And we thought La. public education was a travesty before

37) Comment by Chucky - 28/09/2012

OK, I am starting to agree with posters that Louisiana ( at least in education ) is backwards and maybe corrupt. I can see no other way that this woman was placed in this position.

38) Comment by mikedeshot - 28/09/2012

Traveler you seem to be shocked that a two year teacher would be running a program that will possibly affect the careers of educators with PhDs and many years in the classroom. Well I've got a better one for you. The person who developed the evaluation program for Louisiama and who trained principals in how to evaluate teachers had no teaching experience at all and no training in education! That's like having a social worker train surgeons in operating room procedures.

39) Comment by localgal - 28/09/2012

What total idiot would put a non-certified teacher with only 2 years experience, and that teaching based on a crash course training through TFA? What about the Praxis? Did she take it and, if she did, could she pass it? Was her teaching evaluated? Probably not. She probably could not pass the evaluation as it is proposed now. Well, just look at where she worked *after* she left TFA---The RSD in New Orleans. And who was in charge of the RSD? John White. And who is state superintendent now? John White. So---spqr, I guess we need to fire John White. Nothing has changed regarding the education of Louisiana's children. The State Department of Education is being run by those with close political connections to our governor and his hand-picked messiah. Yes, we need evaulation, but not like this. Traveler's novel is not a novel. It is happening right before our eyes. She is exactly what Traveler has described---a 20-something teacher wannabe with no experience and a big salary. And that is probably just the tip of the iceberg.

40) Comment by spqr - 28/09/2012

She is age 27 with two years teaching experience. No veteran teacher can respect this. Who does she know to get that job? Whoever hired her should be fired.

41) Comment by Traveler - 28/09/2012

This situation reminds me of the Bible verse, "And a little child shall lead them." [Isaiah 11:6] By what stretch of the imagination is a 27-year old with TWO YEARS' classroom experience qualified to direct the evaluation of thousands of Louisiana teachers, most of whom have better credentials and much more time "in the trenches" than she does?! This borders on the absurd. Would mature physicians tolerate assessment by an intern?! Would attorneys stand for examination by a law clerk?! Louisiana teachers, why aren't you protesting? This insult to teachers would not have gone unchallenged in Chicago!

42) Comment by Traveler - 28/09/2012

If I were writing a novel whose central character was in a position of power in the state of Louisiana, and if that character's motive was to exercise total control over decisions and actions by the State Department of Education, then I would have my fictional leader appoint people to positions of authority who were novices at teaching. The appointees would be young and therefore inexperienced. My fictional leader would lure these novices with huge salaries that they could not earn in any other line of work. He would dazzle each appointee with an impressive title and a big office. And they would parrot their benefactor's philosophy and do his bidding.

43) Comment by Traveler - 28/09/2012

Let's get this straight: the individual who is in charge of a state evaluation program for educators (a program that ultimately decides on teachers' job security and income increases) has a total of TWO YEARS classroom experience?! Listen, under the former rules, she could not even have been tenured, since tenure required three years of satisfactory performance in a classroom! Going further, since she was a Teach for America recruit, we know that her professional preparation for teaching was compressed into a few weeks during the summer prior to her first year of employment. If she loved teaching so much, one has to ask why she fled the classroom after the typical two-year TFA "tour of duty."? It is interesting to me that the reporter of the article, Will Sentell, did not mention Ms. Horstman's college degree, but TFAer's do not hold degrees in education----and we have to wonder, does she have anything higher than a bachelor's degree?! Her obvious lack of preparation is appalling.