Graduating teachers not fazed on tenure

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Southern University graduate Cleotha Johnigan, Jr. waits in the procession line at graduation practice Thursday evening at the F.G. Clark Activity Center. Johnigan said two public school overhaul measuers pushed by the governor won't affect his job performance.

“I’ve worked in industry the last 20 years. My job security was always based on my performance. I’ll approach teaching the same way.” cLEOTHA jOHNIGAN JR., SU teaching graduate

It was a rare day Friday as Baton Rouge’s three postsecondary institutions held their commencement ceremonies on the same day — all within hours of each other.

More than 5,000 students graduated from Baton Rouge Community College, LSU and Southern University.

Among about 600 students completing degree requirements at BRCC was Patricia Klemens, a Frankfurt, Germany, native who spoke about her future while bouncing on the tips of her toes. She received an honors associate degree in general studies. Klemens, who first came to the area in 2005 as a foreign exchange student at Zachary High School, is headed back to Frankfurt in two weeks to pursue another degree.

“It’s kind of hard to translate,” she said. “I guess you could say it’s business management in fashion retail. I feel really good right now.”

About 30 minutes later in another part of town, Leah Peoples, acting as the chief student marshal because of her perfect 4.0 grade point average, led a group of 636 students into the F.G. Clark Activity Center at Southern for their spring commencement.

The Wilmington, Del., native achieved that perfect score even after losing her furniture, computer, clothes and textbooks in a fire during her sophomore year.

But among all of the thousands of graduates who received their diplomas Friday, there is one group of graduates — Louisiana’s teachers — who are now entering a job market that has changed drastically in just the past several weeks.

Last month, Gov. Bobby Jindal signed into law two pieces of legislation intended to overhaul Louisiana’s public schools.

One of those measures would make it harder for public school teachers to earn and retain a form of job security called tenure.

The other one allows public school students to offset a portion of the price to attend private and parochial schools with vouchers — dollars long reserved for the state’s roughly 1,300 public schools.

A few hours after 3,827 students picked up their diplomas at LSU’s 277th commencement ceremony, the university’s College of Education had a smaller gathering for more than 430 graduates — aged from 21 to 71 years old — pursuing teaching careers.

Mary Blanchard, 21, of Houma, received a bachelor’s degree in elementary education. She said she’s been preparing for changes in the state’s public schools because of their poor track record.

“I think about moving out of state all the time, but my family is too important to me. And I love Louisiana.”

Out of a dozen teaching graduates interviewed this week at LSU and Southern, about half expressed concern about the new direction Louisiana’s public schools are headed. The other half collectively shrugged their shoulders.

That’s in stark contrast to the noise made by hundreds of public school teachers who took days off of work to rally at the State Capitol as the two overhaul bills made their way through both chambers and onto the governor’s desk.

New Orleans native Meredith Hurst, 23, graduated from LSU Friday with a master’s degree in elementary education. She’s headed to the St. Bernard Parish public school system to teach the fourth grade.

Hurst said veteran teachers she worked with as a student teacher tried to discourage her from entering the profession because of some of the new laws. But the new graduate said she’s not particularly concerned about changes and what they could mean for her future job security.

“Tenure doesn’t bother me. It’s too easy to get right now,” Hurst said.

Southern University teaching graduate Cleotha Johnigan Jr., 39, of New Roads, also said the change in teacher tenure won’t affect him when he finds a job.

“I’ve worked in industry the last 20 years. My job security was always based on my performance. I’ll approach teaching the same way,” Johnigan said.

Willona Hogan, 34, also graduated from Southern’s College of Education this week.

Hogan said the voucher system could be problematic based on her experiences as a second-grade student teacher at a public school in a low-income area of Baton Rouge this year.

Hogan said she believes the motivated children and the children whose parents are more involved in their children’s education will disproportionately apply for the vouchers.

A system, she said, where lower-performing students are stuck in classrooms where they wouldn’t have the benefit of collaborating with their higher-achieving peers is “unfair” to both the students and the teachers come evaluation time.

Hogan said 18 out of the 23 students in her class as a student-teacher were behind grade level. Additionally, some of the more capable students made very little attempt to do the work they were assigned.

“They didn’t care about doing the work because their parents don’t care,” Hogan said. “When we had teacher conferences, only nine parents showed up. And that’s out of 23 students.”

But Sheila Lewis, director of student teaching at Southern’s College of Education said she doesn’t foresee any major problems for the state’s newer teachers or a mass exodus of teachers looking to leave the state.

“The student teachers are well prepared for the new changes. They are aware that tenure is no longer a perk or a luxury,” Lewis said. “They know they have to demonstrate effectiveness in the classroom.”

Verjanis Peoples, dean of Southern’s College of Education, said graduating teachers have been exposed to enough in-class teaching experiences and professional development seminars to be prepared for their future careers.

“Students who are committed to teaching are not paying a lot of attention to tenure and vouchers. They’re paying attention to the students they are going to be teaching.”


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1) Comment by teacherguy - 19/05/2012

What these college grads don't understand is that tenure makes it hard for the school system to fire you without probable cause. I have taught for 18 years, in that time I have known men, specifically, that have been accused of sexual misconduct with students. Those without tenure have been fired upon the accusation...in about 50% of the cases, the accusations were accurate...however, in the other cases...the accusations proved to be false. And the financial ruin of these men made them lose their homes, etc. When they tried to sue the school boards, the school boards could afford strong enough lawyers to wait the innocent victims out. With all of this emphasis on test scores determining pay, job security, etc., there will be a rise of cases like in Atlanta with teachers cheating and such....without tenure, whistle blowers will not be willing to step up. Just like some politicians wish to limit the amount of malpractice lawsuits/limits against doctors...if teachers do not feel safe from frivolous accusations from students that don't like them, have a vendetta for making them behave, etc. will exit the teaching profession. If you were wondering, I've been raked over the coals for misinterpretations of subject matter by the students in my social studies class (slavery, anti-Semitism, evolution, gay marriages, etc.) and without tenure...I'd have lost my job. Also, I have been the victim of vendetta bound students because I wrote them up for chewing gum. In America, you are guilty until proven innocent when it comes to certain accusations. I do believe they should make it easier to get rid of a teacher that can't control his class, relaxes too much, etc., but you people who insist on beating up on teachers will wish you had some experience in the classroom and public schools to keep the kids off the streets when those who don't care about job protections flood the schools and the charters and privates dismiss the behaviorally and academically challenged while keeping tax payer money after the October 1 "money date". Give it a few years to let us retire and see what these laws will move into our spots.

2) Comment by SuzanneMS - 19/05/2012

Dawson, I have been working for more than 40 years. I have worked in jobs from Utah to New York to Los Angeles to Louisiana. I have worked for public and private employers. I have worked part-time and full-time; I have worked temporary jobs and permanent jobs. It doesn't get any more "real" than that. Every job I have held has included a "probationary period" during which I could be fired without explanation. After the probationary period was over, I could only be fired for cause. Do you even understand what "for cause" means? It means that there has to be a reason other than my supervisor's bad mood or because he wants to put his kid or his nephew into my job. Get it now?

3) Comment by Dawson - 19/05/2012

Sorry Suzanne, I employ dozens of people and your "6 month to 1 year probationary period" fantasy land is by no means the norm in the real world. Nothing is guaranteed, you get hired, you do the job or you get fired. Thats the way it ought to be. Job security is won everyday with your superior performance in the job you do. In your "real world" just because you are occupying the job means you deserve to keep it another day. And we wonder what's wrong with society when people think they deserve a job.

4) Comment by SuzanneMS - 19/05/2012

They aren't worried about saving for retirement, either. The reason that experienced teachers are protesting is because they are experienced -- experienced at teaching and experienced at life. Not sure what "real world" you live in, The_Host, but there are laws against that racial discrimination, sexual harassment, discrimination on the basis of physical disability, of religion, of political views and dismissal without cause in the world the rest of us live in. And in the "real world," most jobs have a 6-month to 1-year probationary period, after which you can only be fired for cause. Teachers will now be on 5-year probation, and only earn tenure if they are in the top 10%. In the "real world," everyone who makes it through the probationary period earns some kind of job security, whether it's called "seniority" or "career status" or "permanent status" or whatever.

5) Comment by TheTardis - 19/05/2012

Teachers perform the most important job in the country. It's also one of the most difficult and thankless jobs. They deserve special protections.

6) Comment by dday198 - 19/05/2012

welcome to the rat race. you'll figure it all out in time

7) Comment by The_Host - 19/05/2012

Twinkle- So what you're saying is teaching is like any other job I guess because what you just described is what everyone in the real world deals with all the time. Welcome to the real world kiddies.

8) Comment by twinkie1cat - 19/05/2012

Of course 21 year olds are not concerned about tenure. they don't understand the importance of knowing that you still have a job for the next school year and that they won't be uprooted when they have a car and house payment just because they got a principal who does not like them. They also don't place a lot of importance on health and life insurance or long term disability insurance that you pay extra for but can pretty much only get on your job. None of that happens until they are over 30. What tenure does is protect teachers from bad principals who are racist, sexist, want to have sex with them or are just incompetent and feel threatened by teachers who know more than they do. A principal can dispose of a teacher without tenure just because he does not like the way she dresses, her weight, her sexual orientaton, her religion, her pro-choice bumper sticker or because she advocates for her special needs students and makes sure they get what they need and he sees them as vegetables. That is because there does not have to be a reason given when an un-tenured teacher is not re-contracted. She can have a perfect evaluation and still lose her job. Bad teachers are not the ones who get fired. Teachers who do not sniff the butt of bad administrators and tell them how good they smell are. And what is going to happen in Louisiana is that veteran educators who do not have tenure will be fired because selfish administrations know they can pick up a 21 year old for less money.