Ascension road tax defeat dissected

Officials in Ascension Parish are back at square one trying to find ways to address a growing traffic problem in the parish.

Voters on Tuesday overwhelmingly defeated a 25-year, half-cent sales tax proposition that would have been earmarked for traffic improvements on state and local roads throughout unincorporated areas of the parish.

More than 65 percent of qualified voters in the parish cast ballots on the referendum, with 57 percent of them opposing the tax. The opposition to the tax came from across the parish, with just two precincts showing more than a dozen voters supporting the proposal — and those two precincts were split 50-50 with a total of three more “yes” votes than “no.”

“We’re certainly disappointed,” said Chris Loar, Ascension Parish Council chairman. “We thought we had a good plan that had never been presented before as far as specific projects and the investment we were asking people to make — 16 cents a day — certainly was something people would be willing to support.”

Al Robert, the vice chairman of the Ascension Parish Republican Parish Executive Committee, which opposed the tax and fought for its defeat, said he was “very pleased” that parish voters united in opposition to the parish’s plan, which focused on widening key intersections with the addition of turning lanes.

“I think anybody who found out the reason for the tax and did their homework would not vote for it, would not consider voting for it,” Robert said.

Loar said he believes the parish fell victim to voters who “couldn’t differentiate” the revenue needs among the parish, state and federal governments. He said the claims made by opponents who said the parish has wasted resources and doesn’t need new revenue streams were “such a joke” because the parish has managed on a “shoestring budget” successfully during the recession.

Robert, however, said the parish’s plan, which would have spent more than $90 million on local and regional road improvements and more than $50 million on state and federal projects with hopes of leveraging funds from the state Department of Transportation and Development for those projects, didn’t spend the money in the right places. Opponents to the plan especially were against the fact that it didn’t build any new roads to try to relieve the parish’s growing traffic burden, Robert said.

“It might have made the roads a little safer, but it was not going to decrease the traffic,” he said.

Loar said he thought the plan laid out before the voters — with funds dedicated to specific projects and supplemental projects listed in case conservative revenue projections yielded additional money — was one that addressed the current problem of how to keep traffic moving while also
setting the stage for projected future growth in the parish.

Without the roughly $200 million the tax was expected to generate during the next 25 years, Loar said, parish leaders now must continue working with the state and federal government officials to try to supplement the parish’s limited road budget.

“I guess we’ll just continue doing this thing piecemeal,” Loar said.

Robert said the answer to the parish’s current problems should be the construction of new thoroughfares to help traffic flow better. He also said a toll road — whether it’s the one being discussed at La. 447 and La. 42 between officials in Livingston and Ascension parishes, or a larger Baton Rouge loop project that would include those parishes and others in the region — should be a part of the solution.

“We definitely know something is going to have to be done, but what they were proposing was not the answer,” Robert said.

The parish currently lacks the resources to address the problem, Loar said. His biggest complaint is that opponents to the tax haven’t given parish leaders any ideas about how they would address the traffic issues facing the parish, adding he’s open to listening to new ideas and solutions.

“If anyone out there has ideas of how we can raise $155 million like we were trying to do or show us how parish government can be more efficient and come up with $8 million to $10 million per year, we’d love to hear it,” Loar said.

Parish leaders know the parish’s traffic infrastructure isn’t getting any better, Loar said, so they now have to create a new plan that residents can buy into and support.

“I suppose we have to,” Loar said. “I don’t know how we demonstrate to people. It’s going to take something. We have to raise revenue some way. We can’t make money magically appear.”


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1) Comment by Woody - 09/11/2012

@36racin - game, set and match!. i don't think a single point you made can be factually disputed.

2) Comment by 36racin - 08/11/2012

Ragnar,,,,,Let me list a few road improvement projects this parish has already spent $$$ on and gotten little or no relief for the traffic at thes intersections or roads......Hwy621 at Hwy61. This improvement only accoplished on thing. A right turn lane. No left hand turn. Traffic still backed up in heavy traffic times. How many car travel this car daily. Thousands...Same for Hwy621 at Hwy73. One lane to two turn within a couple of hunderd feet of the intersection. And yet the traffic is still backed up to L. Landry road during high traffic time....Hwy73 OMG the road was two lanes for all time. Couldn't move traffic for the 30+ years I have been using them. While the center lane is nice to have. This road still cannot handle the amount of traffic that travels it. And yet the parish IS and wants to do the same 3 lane ***** to the other two sections not already done. Oh then I see lets add some more lanes later for more engineering cost/fees for the parishes favorite engineering companies. Wreck havoc on the residences and businesses along these corridors yet again.....Hwy74 at Hwy61 Same as 621 intersection but the only difference is no cross traffic. Yet the intersection still backs up...Hwy42 I know it's in the works. It's been in the works for 15+ years. Years of promises from politicians and yet nothing is done yet. And an extension to the interstate is doable. Even thru the swamp. Take a look at maps there are alternatives to take Hwy42 across airline and to the interstate at either Bluff rd and or between there and Hwy73. If Hwy73 had enough lanes there would be not need for another Hwy42 interchange. People would use Hwy73 to get to the interstate. Instead of Hwy427 and Highland Road......Rural nature..HAHA.... You want to see rural then you need to take a ride to Darrow, Convent, or Donaldsonville and beyond. The Prairieville area has not been RURAL for 20 years. It's just a word the politicians use to try to get the people on their side. They even use it many times in their development codes and rules. Yet everytime a concerned citizen ATTEMPTS to stop a subdivision or business from moving in next to them the politicians dont stand up to the business and contractors and say NO you will not locate here. They continue to approve more and more subdivisions and businesses regardless if our infrastructure can handle the additional people/business traffic or not....... Commuter traffic from neighboring parishes...Lets see Hwy431, Hwy30 Major traffic corridor. But wait lets put a few turn lanes on this 10 mile stretch of road and the traffic will magically disapear..NOT And I forgot the great idea of adding roundabouts or what ever they call them. 4 of them infact....Hwy61 while at 4 lanes it's way past its time and needs to be upgraded to 6+lanes from EBR line to thru Gonzales to handle the current and future traffic needs.....Interstate 10 I do see surveying being done on the stretch from Highland rd to Gonzales. My only hope is the improvements and additional interchanges are not 20+ years away(EBR mentality) ....Now lets look at Hwy73 again. Still two lanes, still carring one of the highest traffic loads in the parish, yet they still not doing anything elses on this stretch to better the traffic congestion...Dont say the program was aimed at pulling commuter fraffic from neighboring parishes off local corridors.Other parish commuters are going to do the very same thing our parish residence do. When they find a short cut thru the traffic and congestion they use it. Not only that, they tell all their friends just like we do.........................Plain and simple we are tired of paying additional taxes for useless utopian programs with open check books and over budget projects. Yes it will cost considerably to do any portion of these projects. But if you really look at what the Lanes for change program wants to do it contradicts itself with what we hear, see and what is currently being done in other projects currently being done in the parish. Myself and my complete family and every person I know personally voted NO for this tax. And will do so again, until someone can convince us that the money we are being asked to spend is spent wisely. 57% of the residents of this parish who voted on this tax opposed it. So I guess you are one of the 43% who are stuck in traffic daily along with the politicians that come up with this utopian Lanes for Change program or one of the politicians that dont want the 4-5 lanes running thru your neighborhood or front yard. . Good Luck getting more support......And by the way the Roberts weren't the only one opposing this tax. Stop using them as stepping stones or bashing their names for political purposes. It will get you nowhere.

3) Comment by Ragnar - 08/11/2012

36racin... Let's go through your list... ▪ I-10 Widening from Highland to Hwy 30: The DOTD is currently working on design for widening from Highland to LA 22. Consultants have been selected and design plans should be complete in 2013/14. ▪ New interchanges at Bluff and 74: LA 74 interchange is working its way through the State/Federal process. Probably going to have to wait until the Pecue interchange is built for this. Bluff Road interchange has to contend with people in the district fighting improvements to 427 and trying to get “Scenic Byway” status. ▪ Extend Hwy 42 to I-10: That ship sailed a long time ago. The current 42 widening project on the existing corridor is a more than $45 million dollar project. To build a new hwy through the developed area or the swamp is not in your imaginary billion dollar budget. And are you suggesting a 3rd interchange in that one?? At 40-50 million a pop that is rich. ▪ Widen all the major roads to 5+ (HA!) lanes. Cute. You spend money like Ted Kennedy. Also, you cannot widen your way to a solution forever. Your plan would turn half the parish into a spider web of driveway laced turnpikes. As for ‘get the major corridors out of the way now/Don’t be like BR’: One…major corridor funding is not there. You.Can.Not.Afford.That. And! if you aren’t willing to put yourself in a position to afford strategic, cost-effective improvements… Two…The picture you paint of your utopian highway world looks a lot like BR. People like the rural nature of Ascension. Check with the Councilman who lives on 427 and see if he wants it widened to 5 lanes by his house. The Lanes for Change program was aimed at pulling commuter traffic from neighboring parishes off of the local corridors and improving the flow through the local corridors for the local traffic.

4) Comment by 36racin - 08/11/2012

Viable alternatives. Lets see how about --Interstate widening from Highland road to Hwy 30 --New interstate on/off ramps at the Bluff road and Hwy 74 --Extend Hwy 42 to a NEW interstate on/off ramp somewhere between Bluff rd and Hwy 73, Widening the following to 5+ lanes(5 minimum) Adding in Parish sewage facilitie and installations at the same time as projects being installed. Since this new tax burden hasn't been added to our pocket books yet!! -Hwy 61 from Gonzales to EBR -Hwy 42 from Bluff road to atleast Hwy 44 with new intestate on/off ram and new road work between Hwy 61 and Bluff road. -Hwy 44 from Hwy 42 to Hwy 621 -Hwy 621 from Interstate to Hwy 431 -Hwy 431 from Port vincent to Hwy 73 including all of Hwy 30 area inside Gonzales city limits. -Hwy 73 from Hwy 30 to Hwy 61(not 3 lanes as they are currently doing) -Hwy 74 from Hwy 73 acoss Hwy 61 to Hwy 44. Including interstate on/off ramp additions and road extention to Hwy 44. I'm not talking about the piece meal improvements here and there that were PROMISED on the tax we just voted for. I'm talking about full widening and improvements of atleast those above. Which will take care of many of the projects on their Lanes for Change wish list. I do understand it will take many millions of dollars to accomplist just these items. But these items will set the parish in the best possible position for many years to come. Get the major corridors out of the way NOW and do the minor interoir work as $$$$'s allow. The more development Ascension Parish has will only make it harder for any projects to be completed. Lets not follow in the footsteps of EBR and be behind the traffic needs by 20 or more years. Take some of their project currently being done(non interstate improvements). These were projects that were needed 10-25 years ago and now are passed their time because the residents have gotten tired of the traffic and moved on to you guessed it HERE and Livingston Parish. Lets not run them away from Ascension Parish because we cant handle the traffic.

5) Comment by BRmoderate - 08/11/2012

I just wish opponents would provide a viable alternative rather than just saying "no"...if there is a viable alternative, i would jump on it in a heartbeat

6) Comment by BRmoderate - 08/11/2012

What's wrong with passing a tax that provides a tangible benefit? This tax would have improved traffic and increased property values as demand rises for new housing in the impacted areas. How else are we supposed to fund infrastructure projects? Toll roads are proving not to be the conservative's answer as many have to be supplemented anyways

7) Comment by movingon - 08/11/2012

The opponents of the tax were correct. The 30 year Green Light Plan tax was the worst thing that ever happened to Baton Rouge.

8) Comment by phil - 08/11/2012

I do not live in the area but think voters were just to smart to pass a 25-year tax. Is that "dissected" enough for you?

9) Comment by TweetyBird - 08/11/2012

This was nothing more than the typical Robert Taliban Hijinx that is going to impact the parish in a negative way. If the opposition calls themselves "conservative", then they missed the opportunity to address a problem with a conservative approach. If Mr Robert had any knowledge of how to build a new road he would know that it is almost impossible to do it today. Government has to build on existing paths (that in this parish were mostly cow trails) because the cost of land to build a new road is prohibitive. You are talking the it. I bet new roads never enter Mr Roberts mind as he continues to sell land to build new plants.

10) Comment by BRmoderate - 08/11/2012

This is terrible. The vote became a referendum on "gov't waste" rather than addressing the needs of our parish. Ascension simply does not have the funds to build this without a tax. I agree that overall Fed/State gov't waste should be eliminated but the AP local government has done a superb job with limiting their previous budgets. I hope they find a new way to bring this up again or we will face more traffic as our parish grows from the new industries opening in coming years.

11) Comment by RUSerious - 08/11/2012

WhoCares, I'm with you 100%. I too am a Republican (and that is getting more embarassing to say with the likes of the Tea Party and Mr Robert). Toll roads are the answer, huh, so instead of 16 cents a day I can pay $4 a day, sorry Mr Roberts that does not add up.

12) Comment by DMJ - 08/11/2012

Surprise, surprise...

13) Comment by WhoCares - 08/11/2012

It's guys like Al Robert and these tea party losers who got us crushed in the Senate and Presidential election. I live in Ascension and had no problem with this package and I'm a republican. Here is a suggestion; Why doesn't Al Robert (super loser) hire an engineering firm do the studies and put his own freaking plan together. He is just a Monday morning quarterback who has nothing better to do. Get a life dude. Does he have any idea what he's even talking about??? I would bet my paycheck if the proposed plan would of been identical to what he is saying in this article he would of said, " I know we need something, but this is not he answer." It's time to purge the GOP of the nerds.

14) Comment by qwerty - 08/11/2012

All that money because people for what ever reason cannot leave the house a few minutes early. White flight from Baton Rouge, so suck it! now you drive an hour to work.