Gifted and talented advocates criticize proposed aid changes

Proposal would alter per-student allocation

A Baton Rouge group is asking Louisiana’s top school board to scrap plans to revamp the way the state aids gifted and talented students.

“We are also reaching out to legislators and saying this is not a good change,” said Dannie Garrett III, president of the Baton Rouge Association of Gifted and Talented Students.

The complaints stem from a $3.5 billion school funding proposal, which is called the Minimum Foundation Program, that was approved on March 8 by the state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education.

The plan will be reviewed by the Legislature, which begins its 2013 session on April 8.

One part of the plan, which is being spearheaded by state Superintendent of Education John White, would revamp the way the state funds gifted and talented high school students.

White said the changes, which he calls a pilot project, are aimed at getting better results for the high school portion of the $41 million that the state spends annually.

“The state invests as much as California,” he said. “This is a serious investment for us.”

But Garrett said Monday that the plan is riddled with flaws that ultimately will mean less money for gifted and talented students.

Garrett’s group is set to meet Tuesday with BESE President Chas Roemer, who lives in Baton Rouge, and others at 6 p.m. at the Louisiana Resource Center, 5550 Florida Blvd.

Association officials call it a private, volunteer organization with an email list of about 700 parents who advocate for the maintenance and improvement of gifted and talented programs.

Louisiana has about 28,400 gifted and talented students, including nearly 10,000 in high school.

State aid for the roughly 18,000 students from pre-kindergarten through eighth grade would not change.

White’s proposal is linked to other changes in how the state aids its 82,000 special education students, which also has triggered controversy.

The superintendent says that, in both cases, any positive or negative effect on school districts would be limited to 10 percent of total dollars during the 2013-14 school year.

Under current policies, the state allocates aid for gifted and talented students in grants based on enrollment.

Garrett said that means each student qualifies for 1.6 times what the state spends on rank-and-file students.

White wants to change that funding formula.

Under his plan, high school gifted and talented students would receive 1.3 times what rank-and-file students get unless they met certain achievement levels, in which case they would remain at 1.6 times the traditional aid.

“We want to reward excellence,” White said earlier.

Under the BESE-approved MFP plan, students would qualify for the aid if:

  • Eighth-graders score excellent on their Algebra I end-of-course test.
  • Ninth-graders score excellent on their geometry end-of-course test or 3 or higher on an Advanced Placement test, which can be used to qualify for college credit.
  • Tenth-graders score 3 or higher on an AP exam.
  • Eleventh-graders score 3 or higher on an AP exam or 4 or higher on an International Baccalaureate course.

Garrett noted the change would trim the funding level from 1.6 times what rank-and-file students get to 1.3 times.

“That is a 50 percent cut in that extra money,” he said, adding that talented students stand to be most affected.

Garrett also said the requirement that students score at least a 3 on an AP exam is worrisome.

“You can get an A in the class, but if you don’t make a 3, you don’t get this extra (money),” he said.


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Comments (12)


1) Comment by Iamhopeful2 - 20/03/2013

Mr. Roemer - the trick being perpetrated is to move dedicated weighted funding to a non dedicated or weighted application so that this law does not apply and does not require these funds to be used for gifted and talented. There are also other reasons why this being done to benefit charters, virtual schools and course choice providers but I won't go into that. LA Revised Statues R.S. 17:7(2)(f) (athttp://www.legis.la.gov/lss/lss.asp? doc=81172&showback=Y): (f)(i) In addition to any other requirements of the minimum foundation program formula as most recently adopted by the State Board of Elementary and Secondary Education and approved by the legislature, the state board, beginning with the 2010-2011 school year and continuing thereafter, shall require each city, parish, or other local public school board to expend funds generated by applying the weighted factors contained in such formula for at- risk students, career and technical education course units, special education students other than gifted and talented students, and gifted and talented students on personnel, professional services, instructional materials, equipment, and supplies that serve the unique needs of students who generate such funds and to submit annually a written report to the State Board of Elementary and Secondary Education that details the types of activities on which these funds were expended to serve the needs of the weighted students at all schools that serve such students. The information contained in such annual report shall be published on the state Department of Education website in an easily understandable format. That's not exactly block-granting, if we're required to spend the money on those students. Yes, we can spend more, but there is a restriction there. Plus, the state does make rules for those programs - by defining the identification criteria and requiring the appropriate services.

2) Comment by Iamhopeful2 - 20/03/2013

http://www.geauxteacher.net/2013/03/bese-member-james-garveys-further.html And more of the rhetoric from BESE member James Garvey.

3) Comment by Iamhopeful2 - 20/03/2013

http://www.geauxteacher.net/2013/03/more-mfp-gobbledegook-from-supt-white.html A shell game by White and friends

4) Comment by Ohsofedup - 19/03/2013

Write you state representative and senator and also BESE, and continue to do so until they listen and get rid of John White. The State of Louisiana taxpayers nor the children can ever move to the forefront with this man making the moves that are not only costing us millions, but also taking us in the wrong direction at a very rapid pace. Please write them or call them daily until they do something about his department and his position. We need to completely do away with the State Dept. Of Education and things will improve drastically at the local level. For a complete list of your state Representatives and Senators here is the website. http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/FindMyLegislators.aspx BESE website http://bese.louisiana.gov

5) Comment by Ohsofedup - 19/03/2013

A quick peek indicates that some of the unclassified salaries seem to proliferate in the Department of Education: • John White, Superintendent: $275,000; • Michael Rounds, Deputy Superintendent: $170,000; • Howard Drake and Gayle Sloan, Liaison Officers: $160,000 each; • Kerry Laster, Executive Officer: $155,000; • David Lefkowith, precise title still a mystery: $146,000; • Kunjan Narechania, Chief of Staff to John White: $145,000; • Gary Jones, Executive Officer: $145,000; • Deirdre Finn, part time PR Director (working from home in Tallahassee, FL.): $144,000; • James P. Wilson, Director (of what?): $142,000; • Melissa Stilley, Liaison Officer: $135,000; • Elizabeth Scioneaux, Deputy Superintendent: $132,800; • Debra Schum, Executive Officer: $132,000; • Hannah Dietsch, Assistant Superintendent (someone please explain the difference between an assistant superintendent and a deputy superintendent.): $130,000; • Nicholas Bolt, Deputy Chief of Staff (as opposed to assistant chief of staff): $105,000. Perhaps you may have noticed in that lengthy laundry list of high-paying position, there was not a single name followed by the title “Instructor” or any other title that would indicate classroom experience.

6) Comment by Ohsofedup - 19/03/2013

John White is out of control and so are the salaries of his dynasty he has built. It's not for the children at all, It's for him and his cronies. Come on BESE step up to the plate and take responsibility for this man and get rid of him. Louisiana can't afford him and neither can the CHILDREN.

7) Comment by Ohsofedup - 19/03/2013

A quick peek indicates that some of the unclassified salaries seem to proliferate in the Department of Education: • John White, Superintendent: $275,000; • Michael Rounds, Deputy Superintendent: $170,000; • Howard Drake and Gayle Sloan, Liaison Officers: $160,000 each; • Kerry Laster, Executive Officer: $155,000; • David Lefkowith, precise title still a mystery: $146,000; • Kunjan Narechania, Chief of Staff to John White: $145,000; • Gary Jones, Executive Officer: $145,000; • Deirdre Finn, part time PR Director (working from home in Tallahassee, FL.): $144,000; • James P. Wilson, Director (of what?): $142,000; • Melissa Stilley, Liaison Officer: $135,000; • Elizabeth Scioneaux, Deputy Superintendent: $132,800; • Debra Schum, Executive Officer: $132,000; • Hannah Dietsch, Assistant Superintendent (someone please explain the difference between an assistant superintendent and a deputy superintendent.): $130,000; • Nicholas Bolt, Deputy Chief of Staff (as opposed to assistant chief of staff): $105,000. Perhaps you may have noticed in that lengthy laundry list of high-paying position, there was not a single name followed by the title “Instructor” or any other title that would indicate classroom experience. Any wonder why JOHN WHITE needs to cut some of the most important funding!!!!

8) Comment by WhoCares - 19/03/2013

LawyerDan???

9) Comment by Noel Hammatt - 18/03/2013

And you thought pay for performance was for teachers... now we have it for students!

10) Comment by teacherguy - 18/03/2013

More test rats...at least they finally begun to see the absurdity of the value added requirement on gifted kids! But, there is no consideration for the possibility that students that do not acquire higher value added levels annually could possibly be at peak performance already...I know, I know...I'm a terrible person for exploring this possibility.

11) Comment by Crawdaddy - 18/03/2013

Bobby Jindal received his formative years of education (K through 8th) in the Gifted Program. He took the path that many Indian students take and went to Baton Rouge Magnet High instead of McKinley Senior High which was the only gifted high school at that time. The program seems to have done well by him, but heck, everything these days is being defined as "unsustainable", so let's cut it. By the way, the official title of the organization contains the word "for" instead of "of".

12) Comment by tradewinns - 18/03/2013

good example of politics! we have students who have the mental capacity to possibly help all of mankind, so to heck with them. then we have the mental capacity to survive and that's about all. let's bend over all the way and spend whatever is necessary so they can do the best they can do regardless of how little they will end up doing either for themselves or mankind. dang now don't we FEEL good?!