Limits on guns unlikely in La.,  state legislative leaders say

Efforts to ban certain guns and ammunition sales may be pushed, but they will get nowhere in the Louisiana legislative session that opens in April, according to the chairmen of committees that will hear the legislation.

Louisiana voters last fall approved an amendment to the state constitution that gives the state the strongest gun laws in the nation. It subjects any laws attempting to infringe on the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution to keep and bear arms to a “strict scrutiny” test. The legal standard would require courts, when asked, to determine whether the state’s gun laws demonstrate “a compelling governmental interest” and are “narrowly defined.”

State Sen. Bob Kostelka, R-West Monroe, and state Rep. Joe Lopinto, R-Metairie , said that gives a strong hint where Louisiana and the Legislature is in the gun-control debate.

“I don’t see any restrictions coming out. It doesn’t mean there won’t be members who try,” said Lopinto, who heads the Louisiana House Committee on Administration of Criminal Justice.

“Some people will say ‘Let’s do this. Let’s do that.’ Just to get headlines,” said Kostelka, chair of the state Senate Judiciary “C” Committee, which handles criminal law issues and likely would review any gun control legislation. “I don’t see any movement for anybody to do anything in the Legislature.”

Kostelka said in efforts to restrict guns “you are blaming the gun and not the use of the gun by a person.”

So far, there’s been little conversation about changing Louisiana’s gun laws since the Connecticut school massacre that left 20 children and six adults dead at the hands of Adam Lanza, who was believed to have mental-health problems. Lanza is alleged to have killed his mother before heading to the school and carrying out the deadly rampage. Lanza later took his own life.

State Rep. Barbara Norton, D-Shreveport, said she’ll propose legislation aimed at forcing people to lock up their guns when they are not at home. A House special committee has been looking at improved security at schools.

Gov. Bobby Jindal wants legislators to pass a law requiring courts to report to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System when people have been involuntarily committed to mental institutions, the governor announced in a press release on Jan. 11. Jindal’s proposal has not been reduced to writing in the form of legislation.

The national database, which holds more than 7.3 million records, is aimed at preventing potential gun buyers with criminal histories or severe mental illnesses from purchasing firearms. But the database is weak, critics say.

State governments have made little effort to turn over the records to the federal database because of privacy concerns, confusion and difficulties converting paper records into an electronic format, according to the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

President Barack Obama targeted upgrades to the national database in the executive actions he took in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting.

Obama and gun-control advocates say the system’s biggest problem is that only federally licensed gun dealers, and not private transactions such as those that occur at gun shows, are legally required to check buyers’ names against the database before selling a firearm. The private transactions amount to about 40 percent of gun sales.

“Even if these type of laws were in place it wouldn’t have prevented the incidents that have happened,” said Lopinto, a lawyer and former law enforcement officer. For instance, Lanza, in the Connecticut incident, had not been deemed mentally ill and the guns he used were bought by his mother.

“If someone’s Second Amendment right is going to be taken away, it should be done legally, not medically,” Lopinto said.

State Rep. Terry Landry, D-Lafayette, said, “We are setting people up, giving them a false sense of security.”

A former State Police commander, who is on Lopinto’s committee, Landry said there are a lot of people who are mentally ill who have never seen a psychiatrist or any other mental-health professional.

“The cracks is too big, too many people falling through,” Landry said, adding that he thinks gun control is not the answer. “We really need to have a real conversation about violence in our communities, a real conversation about mental-health access, a real conversation about our political discourse and how we handle our disagreements.”

State Rep. Dalton Honoré, D-Baton Rouge, said he doesn’t know whether the reporting would be effective because the screening doesn’t apply to sales at gun show or private sales. Honoré is another legislative committee member who is retired law enforcement officer.

Honoré said he believes in the Second Amendment “but I don’t believe it’s necessary for you to own an automatic weapon. I’m a gun owner myself and carried one for years for a living. It’s only meant for killing something.”

Honoré said he would like to see movement toward stopping gun sales to the mentally ill.

“Law enforcement should be able to know that this guy has some instability,” Honoré said. “I’m opposed to a person ruled incompetent or mentally incompetent being able to buy a gun.”

House Criminal Justice Committee vice chair Helena Moreno said she expects to see some movement on legislation dealing with the mentally ill and guns.

“At the end of the day it all comes down to additional treatment and access to treatment,” said Moreno, D-New Orleans. “In this state we have some issues with drastic cuts we have had to mental-health care.”

But Moreno said she expects to see a large number of bills going through her committee dealing with gun issues “from both ends of the spectrum.”

Moreno State Sen. Fred Mills, R-St Martinville, a member of Judiciary “C” said he’s seen no traction for gun law restrictions given passage of the constitutional amendment. “If you look at that amendment we did, I think you can almost bring your gun to church right now,” Mills said.


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Comments (17)


1) Comment by julwood - 23/01/2013

It's far too easy to get guns in this country. Let's get rid of our guns. We have a gun culture that needs to be changed.

2) Comment by mh1949 - 22/01/2013

It is so amazing that with so many people in and out of that building full of all those " ASSAULT WEAPONS & HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES " and no one was killed. Put 10 people on any given street corner in 70805 on any night and someone's going down before daylight.

3) Comment by mh1949 - 22/01/2013

DMJ I was at the gun show this past weekend. It was a chaotic massacre with all the guns jumping off the tables and killing so many people. I think the guns had the massacre planned out well in advance for the killings seemed so organized.They truly had minds of their own as they marched through the building killing people. DMJ I pray to God you will never have to face a situation of defending yourself or a loved one from an armed person but if you do I hope you have your butter knife handy.

4) Comment by Springer98 - 22/01/2013

@DMJ, " It seems that the longer we debate anything, the dumber everyone becomes because of it." You do realize that with your use of the word "everyone", you are including yourself........

5) Comment by jeffsadow - 22/01/2013

"The cracks is too big ...." Please tell me the former head of a major state agency did not say that. And thanks to @smittybombs for explaining the finer points of the law, which exposes the ridiculous nature of the propsosals of legislators and other commenters.

6) Comment by nimby? - 22/01/2013

I'm sure if we asked those involved in the areas recent shootings where and how they acquired their weapons their answers would be reasonable , logical and forthright ....

7) Comment by DMJ - 22/01/2013

Silly hyperboles, anyone? It seems that the longer we debate anythihng, the dumber everyone becomes because of it. Communism...confiscation of legally acquired guns...guns having nothing to do with shootings... Anyone else want to take a stab?

8) Comment by The_Host - 22/01/2013

MEM they sure seem to understand that concept when if comes to people taking away their rights as they see it. DMJ would be just fine dictating how we all live if we let him just like all communists. Oh and I guess they aren't going to take up guns considering the true landslide vote on the 2nd at the State level in the last election.

9) Comment by Whatnow - 22/01/2013

Today's shootings were all caused by guns pulling their own triggers. Personal responsibility should not be in the mix. Right?

10) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 22/01/2013

It's amazing how so many clueless Amerikans just don't understand they do not have the right to force others to live a certain way.

11) Comment by DMJ - 22/01/2013

Oh, and how many accidental shootings are in the headlines today? 3?

12) Comment by DMJ - 22/01/2013

Any action on guns will need to be at the federal level. Louisiana will never do the responsible thing unless compelled to.

13) Comment by smittybombs - 22/01/2013

I'm surprised Honore doesn't know the difference between automatic and semiautomatic guns. Fully automatic weapons require a Class 3 license, which is not something easily obtained from the federal government. You can't just go to Academy and pick up a machine gun. Semi-automatic guns, like those used in CT, fire one bullet each time you pull the trigger. Also, this notion of gun shows being some sort of gun buying free for all where you can walk in and pick up anything from a revolver to anti aircraft guns is just silly. Most of the sellers at gun shows are businesses with an FFL (Federal Firearms License.) When purchasing a gun from an FFL, you have to fill out the same form you would if you went to Academy to buy a gun, and they call the same people (the ATF) that Academy would call for the background check. Yes, there are private transactions at gun shows, and those are not covered by federal registration or background checks. But from what I've seen there are many more FFL transactions than private ones. Maybe other states are different, but that's how it is in LA. You can't sell a Class 3 weapon through an unreported private transaction. Buying guns online is the same. If you're buying from a dealer off of Gunbroker, or a company such as Midway, you buy the gun and have your local FFL dealer send their license to the company you bought it from. Once the seller receives the FFL, they send the gun to the local FFL. When you go to pick the gun up, the local FFL gives you the same form as above and calls the ATF for the background check. You can't just order whatever gun you want and have it overnighted to your door. I'm not sure how they arrived at 40% of all gun sales being private transactions. If they aren't reported, then there are no statistics to use to calculate anything. From what I've seen, I would say the percentage is far less..probably 15-20% but I could be wrong. You can't legislate responsibility. Parents who own guns need to lock them up. Every new gun sold is required to be sold with a lock, and trigger locks/action locks are cheap, so it's not because of lack of availability. You don't need a $4000 gun safe. Like the teenager who killed his family over the weekend, he should not have been able to access the .22 rifle or AR-15, whether or not he had mental issues (which apparently he did have.) Guns need to be locked up, and you can pass laws to require that but unless cops go into a house for some other reason and see a gun laying around, that's not going to do much. Responsible gun owners lock them up already, a law isn't going to make the irresponsible owners suddenly run out and get gun locks or teach their kids to respect firearms.

14) Comment by Concerned_Parent - 22/01/2013

And just how will Mrs. Norton enforce this new "law"? Is my wife and children supposed to sacrafice their lives in the event an intruder is waiting in the bushes and attempts to follow them into my home while returning from the grocery store. Is a person trained to handle their weapon safely supposed to die b/c their guns must be locked up in THEIR OWN HOME!

15) Comment by popseal - 22/01/2013

Adverting agencies go through hundreds of $millions$ changing our buying habits repeatedly showing images and messages designed to change our buying habits. Yet, we're not to belive that a constant diet of 'approved' violence in pop culture media entertainment has no affect on violence in society. Went into a video store yesterday and watched 5 young men purchasing 'games' wherein you get to kill people looking through digital gun sites, seeing the target's head explode.

16) Comment by hog611 - 22/01/2013

I think anyone that introduces gun control Legislation will be on the fast track home. That includes Rep Norton. The law abiding Firearm Owners in this Country are fed up with the B. S.

17) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 22/01/2013

Barbara Norton just won't ever respect the rights of others. Ever.