La. looks at how to collect sales tax

The creation of a statewide commission for collecting sales taxes would benefit businesses and help in the eventual collection of sales taxes from Internet sales, proponents of the idea say.

Several representatives of local governments question the idea, but say they are willing to discuss the matter as long as it doesn’t turn into a centralized state collection program, against which a couple of local governments have passed resolutions in recent weeks.

The Louisiana Department of Revenue is soliciting input on sales tax collection ideas and is having a “very healthy discussion” with the various sides, said Jason DeCuir, assistant secretary of the Louisiana Department of Revenue.

“What can we do to improve collections?” is the question the department is asking people who are involved with sales taxes, he said. “Let’s put our heads together.”

The complexity of the administration of sales tax collection is a burden on retailers under the current system, DeCuir said.

Proposals in Congress would provide for collection of sales taxes from online retailers, but those bills require “a central point of collections,” he said.

Some local officials say they “don’t want the state to be the central collection point, but that doesn’t say they oppose a board or some other single collection point,” DeCuir said.

“Local (sales tax) collectors are on the ground floor,” DeCuir said. “They know their areas best.”

The Department of Revenue is looking at a collaboration that involves the local tax collectors, he said.

Concerned about what they saw as a possible push to take sales tax collection away from parishes and put the process in the hands of the state, at least two parish governments took action against a proposal that hasn’t been made.

The Tangipahoa Parish Council and the St. Helena Parish Police Jury passed resolutions opposing any attempt by the state to take over the sales tax collection job.

Tom Ed McHugh, head of the Louisiana Municipal Association, said sales taxes are a vital matter to local government and one local governments have long guarded from state takeover.

“That’s our life’s blood,” he said of sales taxes.

“If we don’t do a good job (of collection) we suffer severely,” McHugh said. “If the state doesn’t do a good job, they don’t suffer, but we do.”

There has been no public discussion of the state taking over sales tax collection, said Doug Baker, communications director for the Department of Revenue.

Talking about such changes is premature, he said.

“As of yet there is no governor’s tax package,” Baker said.

“I’m not aware of any proposal on the table to have the state collect sales taxes,” said John LeBlanc, taxation and finance director for the Louisiana Association of Business and Industry.

There have been discussions of “some sort of program in which local jurisdictions would work together more cohesively,” LeBlanc said.

The tax code mandates uniformity among parishes, “but there is no mechanism to enforce that except the court system,” he said.

“In most states there is one collector of state and local taxes” so there are not laws that change, depending on jurisdictional boundaries, he said.

Businesses expect some differences in laws between states, but don’t expect laws to change over parish boundaries, LeBlanc said.

“If you are trying to attract a business from another state, these issues are foreign,” he said. “Out-of-state businesses are used to filing one return with one agency,” not multiple returns with multiple audits.

An idea that has been discussed is having a uniform sales tax commission to help when taxpayers have issues that cross parish lines, he said.

The next level would be to find some way for that body and the Revenue Department to work together, LeBlanc said. “There are all kinds of variations that are being discussed,” he added.

Collection of sales taxes from Internet sales will require a single collection point in a state, LeBlanc said.

“Irrespective of the federal legislation, Louisiana should be moving in this direction anyway,” he said.

The economy of scale could result in saving money in collections as well as simplifying tax payments by businesses and would prevent businesses from being subjected to the possibility of 65 audits in a year — one from each of the 64 parishes and one from the state, he said.

“There is a window of opportunity,” LeBlanc said. “It seems to be an issue that people are talking about.”

Mike Olivier, CEO of the Louisiana Committee of 100 for Economic Development, said the state suffers now from a tax system that businesses often view as so complicated that many companies don’t even consider locating in Louisiana.

A centralized sales tax collection system would simplify tax payments and make Louisiana more attractive, he said.

“The motor vehicle collection process is a great example” of how a collection program can work, he said.

Mike Curtis, who heads the sales tax collection program from Livingston Parish, said the high error rate in motor vehicle collections is evidence that such a centralized program doesn’t work well.

“We have a sneak peek into it now with motor vehicles, and it’s not a pretty picture,” Curtis said,

The positives of local collection far outweigh the negatives, he said.

Individual parishes have numerous taxing districts and different sales tax amounts in different parts of their parishes, Curtis said.

Parish tax collectors know where the boundaries are for the different taxing districts in their parishes and can quickly answer questions about those districts, he said.

They also keep local governments informed about what is happening with sales tax collections in their areas so governments know what to expect and plan accordingly, Curtis said.

He said he would oppose centralized tax collections by the state, but after talking with state officials, he is willing to continue the dialogue to explore other avenues of sales tax reform.

The state already has an electronic filing system that local governments and the business community worked closely to develop, said George Marretta, special projects director for the Louisiana Municipal Association.

There’s only one agency in each parish that collects sales taxes for all of the governmental bodies in a parish, he said.

Five parishes in the northeastern part of the state all look to Concordia Parish to collect their sales taxes and Cameron Parish has no sales tax, he said.

LMA’S 305 members don’t want any change that will slow down their receipt of sales tax money, which is the most important source of revenue for local governments, Marretta said.

Olivier said a centralized collection system would be more efficient. “I don’t know that there is a good argument against it other than the political control and the jobs as they exist today,” the former state secretary of Economic Development said.

“Anything we can do to improve the efficiency of our state and local government tax systems will have a positive effect on existing businesses and new business coming to Louisiana,” Olivier said.

“We have to come into the 21st Century and match the speed of commerce.”


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Comments (8)


1) Comment by CountryBoysCanSurvive - 18/12/2012

@ NewsReader - I would rather my money be mishandled by me not the feds or state govt. You make the assumption that if I am against something that I do not abide by it. I started having to abide by things forced upon me many years ago. So get a grip, collect all of your extra money and send it to your president.

2) Comment by RODEO CLOWN - 17/12/2012

NEWSREADER, your comment is true, state sales taxes are deductible provided one's itemized deductions(in total)exceed one's standard deduction--minor restriction you failed to mention. In addition, in order to be deductible, a taxpayer must file SCH-A: ITEMIZED DEDUCTIONS. The total of allowable deductions must exceed the STANDARD DEDUCTION(MFJ must exceed $11,900/SINGLE/MFS, must exceed of $5,900) for 2012. Are you aware of what percentage of Louisiana taxpayers file SCH-A? Less than 20%! Versed in an alternative manner--80% of Louisiana taxpayers would not/could not/do not benefit from this allowable deduction. The third factor is in order to take such a deduction, the taxpayer is required to keep each/every purchase receipt made during the year(quiet a feat of bookkeeping for professionals) or use a chart provided by the IRS oriented to the gross income reported. Trust me, the IRS chart is not "oriented" in favor of the taxpayer. In summation, your point is well taken, but the real world mechanics of and the value to the average taxpayer is questionable--very highly questionable.

3) Comment by NewsReader - 17/12/2012

And as an add-on CBCS, you do realize that your local sales taxes etc are deductible from your Fed tax, right? So think about it for a second, where do you want the tax dollars going that you spend? Locally or somewhere else? It won't change your overall tax expense at all to do the right thing. Say for example you owe the IRS $1000 total in taxes but had never declared local sales tax owed of $250, then doing the right thing would put that $250 to work here in La and reduce your exposure to the Feds to $750. It is because of how people cheat, not just here but everywhere nationwide, that States are in such a mess. And particularly someone like you CBCS who has been pretty vocal in past months about how the President mishandles the money. Wouldn't you rather the money got mishandled here?

4) Comment by madbiker - 17/12/2012

I know, I know....Lets create a fictional business, call it a public/private partnership, allow it to keep a percentage of the revenue it collects, say 95% to cover salaries and office expenses, etc. Now who would run it...that would be a secret... It would be part of the delebrative process, but probably an out of state campaign contributor. It would have non judicial authority to intercept everyone's email to see if there has been a sale made. The next thing they are going to want to do is set up checkpoints for people with Louisiana tags re-entering the state and make you pay Louisiana taxes on anything bought out of state unless you have a receipt that shows where you bought something in state. The problem is that local governments are addicted to the crack of taxes.

5) Comment by NewsReader - 17/12/2012

CBCS, conversely the counter-argument is, every business run in this state by a law abiding local resident has to collect sales tax, so why should a company from a neighboring state be allowed to compete unjustly? It is not the company that pays, it's YOU that should pay. Sales tax is an end-user tax. If you also checked your annual state income tax forms, you're already supposed to be declaring this. So how about you pay your fair share of taxes? You're usually quick enough to comment on people you feel are leeching off the system by now paying into it. I am pretty sure you've just exposed yourself as one gigantic tax cheat yourself.

6) Comment by LawyerDan65 - 17/12/2012

The proponents talk of "efficiaency" but what they ignore is that local collectors do a better job of collecting the taxes that are due than does the State in collecting the State sales tax. The State audits less, which is the process of catching business that are cheating the system, and the State has a higher percentage of uncollected tax debts. Currently sales tax, local and State, are paid through a single web portal and electronic funds transfers, there is no need for paper forms or checks. But the local money goes to the locals and the State money goes to the State. If a local collector thinks an sudit should be performed, the business has the right to demand every local collector and the State join in to make it one big audit, but they never avail themselves of that option.

7) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 17/12/2012

Allow me to predict the outcome: businesses will still be forced into involuntary servitude and made to do the bidding of the state.

8) Comment by CountryBoysCanSurvive - 17/12/2012

I certainly hope that a lawsuit keeps internet sales taxes tied up in court a lifetime. Any time you buy from a Louisiana seller you pay tax. If you buy something from outside Louisiana you don't plain and simple. The business doing the selling, has to pay for their operation, stock, employees etc why should Louisiana benefit from this? Find other ways to steal our money Mr. Jindal.