Initial voucher reports are good

Advocate staff photo by TRAVIS SPRADLING -- State Superintendent of Education John White, left, watches as pre-kindergarten teacher Sarah Gleason helps Lundyn Smith, 4, right, and Demarlon Robinson, 4, center, classify and sort fall leaves, during White's visit to Dalton Elementary School in Baton Rouge on Wednesday. Show caption
Advocate staff photo by TRAVIS SPRADLING -- State Superintendent of Education John White, left, watches as pre-kindergarten teacher Sarah Gleason helps Lundyn Smith, 4, right, and Demarlon Robinson, 4, center, classify and sort fall leaves, during White's visit to Dalton Elementary School in Baton Rouge on Wednesday.

The initial experience of schools accepting voucher students has been overwhelmingly positive, principals from the Diocese of Baton Rouge told state Superintendent of Education John White on Wednesday morning.

“We didn’t look at them differently,” said Bern Legendre, principal of St. John Interparochial Elementary School in Plaquemine. “They are a part of our family.”

The meeting was the second stop on White’s plan to visit a wide range of schools in 26 parishes.

Under a new state law, students who attend public schools rated C, D or F, and who meet income rules, can apply for state aid to attend private or parochial schools.

Melanie Verges, superintendent of schools for the diocese, said her schools had room for 423 students after roughly 1,500 applied.

Nearly 5,000 students statewide qualified for the vouchers, which provide state aid to cover tuition and mandatory fees at private and parochial schools.

Sandy Pizzolato, principal of Ascension Catholic Elementary School and Ascension Catholic High School, said there was some apprehension initially about the influx of voucher students. But any concerns have disappeared, she said.

“They are happy to see new faces on campus,” Pizzolato said of her school communities.

Verges agreed. “We haven’t gotten any calls,” she said.

Verges said offering spots for the students is a part of Catholic identity and outreach efforts.

Verges said one concern is reading skills among some voucher students, especially in elementary grades. “Our hope is to bring students up to average or above average,” she said.

Several principals said some parents and students were suprised by the amount of homework given compared to their previous schools.

“The homework part has been an awakening for the kids,” said Jose Becerra, principal at St. Thomas Aquinas High School.

But Becerra said that issue has been manageble because of parental “buy in’ before classes started.

Mary Clare Polito, principal at St. Louis King of France School, said parents are heavily involved in their children’s new education venture “much more than we expected.

“They very much want to make a difference in their children’s lives,” Polito said.

Legendre made the same point.

“The parents are calling,” she said. “They are watching the grades.”

Before the new law, the state offered vouchers only to certain students in New Orleans.

Gov. Bobby Jindal asked state lawmakers to expand the aid statewide to give families another option out of failing public schools.

Critics contend the program is draining vital dollars from traditional public schools, where state spending per student has been frozen for four consecutive years.

Opponents have challenged the law in the 19th Judicial District Court in Baton Rouge. A hearing is set for next month.

White said that, during a visit to a Catholic school in Houma on Monday, he was pleased by the way that voucher students were indistinguishable from others.

“I was just so struck by what an opportunity we have,” he said.


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1) Comment by Noel Hammatt - 28/09/2012

@bworley50: I'm not sure why anyone reading my comments would not know what my complaint is, and other than truth, I'm not sure what "dog I have in this hunt." There is no validity to your claim that my criticisms lose any credibility due to my having attended Lee High and St. Aloysius. Anyone who has followed any of my work, research, or commentary and my public service on the school board knows I have been consistent in my remarks=, and always willing to back them up with research and data that IU encourage all to explore. Honestly and openly. The closure of Lee HIgh School had nothing to do with St. Aloysius staying open, of course. Any more than my attendance at either one has anything to do with the current status of either of the two schools, or the relevance or validity of my criticisms. Since you mentioned the closure of Lee High, though, I will give you some facts you may not know about Lee High. Like schools everywhere, Lee was impacted by demographic shifts with the attendance zone for Lee having fewer and fewer high school age students, and many high school age students living within the attendance zone were either in gifted programs at McKinley or at Magnet programs at Baton Rouge High. Having space in the building, the school system placed two very high quality programs at Lee. Nearly all high school students in Baton Rouge who did not have English as their native language were given an opportunity to attend Lee High's English as a Second Language program (ESL). It may be surprising to hear, but students who have recently arrived in the US and who do not speak or write much English, do not do that well on high stakes tests in English. Surprising right? In fact, this occurs in every state and in every school district across the country. These students just don't do that well on tests in English. I know, crazy huh? Anyway, Lee High school was also a site for many students who were identified as deaf and hard of hearing. The school had a wonderful program for these students. Alas, on average, students who are deaf or hard of hearing do not do as well as regular students, on average, on standardized tests. As Will Sentell might say "critics of Noel Hammatt say that he is wrong, that deaf and hard of hearing (and ESL) students CAN LEARN, and can achieve at the highest levels. Of course, I never denied that, and I believe it. I have to admit though, that I am more moved in this instance by decades of research and data that suggest exactly what I said, "on average." No professionals from the State Department of Education visited the school and said "these teachers are failing" or "this administration is doing bad things." They simply looked at the test scores for the student body, whose three largest groups consisted of those qualifying for free meals, those who did not speak English as their native language, and those who were deaf or hard of hearing. We tried to point out to the state that NONE of their schools with similar populations were passing the standard they had set either... but it fell on deaf ears, that, unlike the students at Lee High School, were apparently not supplemented with additional competencies. (Many students at Lee could understand American Sign Language.) At any rate, Lee HIgh was closed because it opened its doors to everyone, especially those with special needs. And the teachers there did a great job, in spite of what an accountability system that is totally absurd, on its face, said about the school. As for St. Aloysius. I notice they didn't open their doors to voucher students, any more than they open their doors to many students of any of the groups found at Lee High School. Doesn't at all impact my criticisms at all, at least not to anyone who is intellectually honest and willing to ask the tough questions.

2) Comment by Get Real - 27/09/2012

It should work out they came in took the students with no discpline issues and with good grades. They didn't take the students that caused hell and havoc or those had bad grades.

3) Comment by jeffreyd00 - 27/09/2012

So glad I can support creationism through my tax dollars, it is by far the best way to upload the separation of church and state!!!

4) Comment by bworley50 - 27/09/2012

@Noel Hammatt. I'm not sure what your complaint is. I don't really have a dog in this hunt, but it seems as though your criticisms might lose a little credibility. You went to St. Aloy then Lee High. One of them is still open, and the other is not.

5) Comment by Whatchange - 27/09/2012

Wait minute, just hold for a second, did you see it, watch,wait a second, you see, that's a twitch in the horses hind leg, lets throw a saddle on it.

6) Comment by Whatchange - 27/09/2012



7) Comment by Whatchange - 27/09/2012



8) Comment by CountryBoysCanSurvive - 27/09/2012

vouchers..1960's all over again.

9) Comment by serenade - 26/09/2012

If you noticed back when they were listing the schools that were taking vouchers, none of the top Catholic schools (St. Aloysius, St. Thomas More, St. George, Our Lady of Mercy, Catholic HIgh, St. Joseph's Academy, etc.) accepted vouchers. Only the ones that were struggling with enrollment accepted voucher students. If it were truly part of their "Catholic identity," all of the schools would be accepting bunches of voucher students. It's all about bringing money in to keep the doors open for their own parishioners.

10) Comment by Noel Hammatt - 26/09/2012

And it seems that The Advocate supports Will Sentell's efforts to contribute to lies, deceit, and myth-information. And this saddens me.

11) Comment by Noel Hammatt - 26/09/2012

@parrott: I sure did, through the 8th Grade, then went to Lee High School and graduated from there. I have absolutely nothing against Catholic schools, or any other schools. I do have a problem with lies, deceit, and myth-information! And the "reformers" are too free with all three!

12) Comment by spqr - 26/09/2012

What else do we expect struggling private schools to say? This illegal cash infusion is saving them. Stupid, predictable article.

13) Comment by parrott - 26/09/2012

@Noel Hammatt: Didn"t you go to St. Aloysius?, a Catholic school?

14) Comment by Noel Hammatt - 26/09/2012

@Being_Stupid: Thanks for making my point for me! :)

15) Comment by Being_Stupid - 26/09/2012

I get my news from John Stossel. See "Stupid in America" Parts 1 & 2 on YouTube.

16) Comment by Noel Hammatt - 26/09/2012

@Being_Stupid: You might try looking at actual research before making your blanket statement. Not at all what the research suggests. http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pdf/studies/2006461.pdf It helps if you can actually read, and don't just get your news from pop-television culture. If you pick your students, and kick out lower performing schools.... well, sure you get better results! But it doesn't mean you are doing a better job teaching. It simply means you are filling seats with higher performing students. The Catholic schools are HAPPY to fill empty seats! And the Department of Ed is doing their propaganda for them! Gotta love free enterprise. Do I hear the sound of public dollars bailing out failing Catholic schools?

17) Comment by Being_Stupid - 26/09/2012

I am okay with my tax money being used to educate children under the age of 18, who are not yet adults. Children, unlike adults, can not provide for themselves yet. Private Schools can provide far superior education at less cost to the Taxpayer than Government Micromanagers and Union Bosses. In the Private Market, if a school does not perform well, it goes out of business versus the Government Monopoly which is guaranteed tax money regardless of performance.

18) Comment by Noel Hammatt - 26/09/2012

Isn't this propaganda (I can't bring myself to call this reporting, or journalism) a lot like asking the fox how the hens enjoyed the experience of the fox guarding the henhouse?

19) Comment by Noel Hammatt - 26/09/2012

Ah, you gotta love Will Sentell and The Advocate. (And yes, I did praise him for a story the other day!) They are back to the status quo after a short pause for journalistic ethics... the status quo for The Advocate and for Will Sentell (who hates public schools more than rabid Tiger fans hate a certain former coach who is now at Alabama) has such a predictable story line. Heap praise and compliments (through the quotes of those who have just been handed an opportunity to fill empty seats, with no requirements for accountability or to take special needs students or to deal with any of those pesky "school accountability scores" that public schools MUST HAVE in order to help parents make decisions-- but parents choosing private schools don't need ANY SCORES, Letter grades or such for these non-public schools) and then, for faux balance, mention the class "critics" and "opponents." By the way, in spite of a heated back and forth set of letters and phone calls, The Advocate, after taking off their lies about how much money districts were getting from the state, have continued to lie about who is paying for these vouchers. "Critics contend the program is draining vital dollars." What a farce this is. Will Sentell and The Advocate might even believe the total lie they told (and have not yet rescinded) when they said that the vouchers are being paid for with "state dollars." Wait till you learn the TRUTH, Baton Rouge, that the real choices have yet to be made. What choices you ask? Which students in EBR will have class sized of 33 students instead of 22. WHich schools will be forced to drop music, art, world languages (if they haven't already) or close libraries because the vouchers are decimating school budgets. Don't believe the lies about saving or "dollars returned" to the local districts. It is VOODOO. Not real. A lie. And I invite anyone who actually thinks there are local savings to invite me to speak to your group. Invite anyone you want to come from the "dark side" to join us. Unlike the state, I have nothing to hide! Why is everyone too scared to explore these issues publicly?

20) Comment by DMJ - 26/09/2012

I'm sure the Catholic schools love the voucher program. Free money from the taxpayer!!

21) Comment by coachblades - 26/09/2012

Of course these schools are very happy to see all this money..uhhh i mean voucher students coming to their schools that were likely struggling to stay open in a bad economy.