Voucher openings weighted to south

Louisiana’s expanded voucher program for students to attend private and parochial schools has a decided south Louisiana flavor, with East Baton Rouge Parish and two others near the Gulf Coast offering lots of the seats.

State officials announced on May 22 that 5,100 seats will be offered to low and middle-income students attending “C,” “D” and “F” public schools.

The aid, which backers call scholarships, is touted by Gov. Bobby Jindal and others as an option for some students trapped in failing public schools.

However, the overwhelming majority of open spots are in south Louisiana, which has a long history of Roman Catholic schools that appealed to parents long before academic and other problems sparked an exodus out of some public school systems.

“It is an all-Louisiana program, and we are thrilled to offer options to every corner of the state,” state Superintendent of Education John White told reporters.

But only seven of 33 parishes with schools offering slots for students are in north Louisiana.

Meanwhile, East Baton Rouge, Orleans and Jefferson parishes account for 42 percent of the 124 schools on the list.

That includes 17 in East Baton Rouge Parish, which has a “D” rating from the state.

The system has 83 schools rated “C,” “D” or “F,” including 25 that get failing marks.

Catina Dunn is one of those parents who hopes to qualify for the state aid.

Dunn, who lives in Baker, said she does not consider public schools there a viable option for her trio, who are ages 5, 6 and 13.

“We will have to move if we don’t get the scholarships,” she said.

Dunn’s first choice is Redemptorist Elementary School, which is offering 100 seats to voucher students.

The eight-parish Diocese of Baton Rouge is one of the most aggressive in the state in offering classroom slots for students in troubled public schools.

Melanie Verges, superintendent of schools for the diocese, said the outreach is part of the church’s ministry. “Education is a true gift,” Verges said.

She said more than 60 percent of the diocese’s 30 schools offered classroom seats for voucher students and more are likely to do so next year.

Scholarships will cover the full amount of a school’s tuition and required fees.

Uniforms and optional fees will be the responsibility of the family.

The money comes from state aid that had financed the child’s education at the public school.

White said state school aid averages about $8,500 per student.

He said average tuition for schools that offered seats is about $6,100 per year.

White said that means a savings to the state of roughly $2,400 per child.

Hosanna Christian Academy is offering 200 seats at its school, which is the largest of any school in East Baton Rouge Parish.

That includes 50 voucher seats in kindergarten, 50 in first grade and 50 in second grade.

Josh LeSage, administrator at the school, said 72 percent of its 352 students are African American.

The aid could boost enrollment at the school by 57 percent.

“It is about social justice,” LeSage said of the decision to offer 200 seats to voucher students.

“Giving people who cannot afford to move to another school district or write a check each month the same opportunity,” he said.

Why schools opted not to participate varies.

Some filled their classrooms for the 2012-13 school year months before the voucher law even passed the Legislature.

Others already had waiting lists, offer scholarships through private donations or feared complaints from parents about an influx of students from troubled public schools.

Families have to meet income rules to qualify for the aid.

Household income cannot exceed $37,825 for a family of two; $47,725 for a family of three and $57,625 for a family of four.

Applications began on May 22. The deadline is June 29.

If applications exceed space a lottery will be held.

Families are supposed to be notified by July 29.

Under the law, 380,000 of Louisiana’s roughly 700,000 public school enrollment could qualify.

White said initially he thought about 2,000 would do so.

He said last week that figure may be a little low.

Penny Dastugue, president of the state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education, said she thinks applications will be more than double initial estimates after more than 5,000 slots were offered by private and parochial schools.

“My guess is that it will be closer to 5,000,” Dastugue said.


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Comments (24)


1) Comment by 1ryben - 27/05/2012

Great questions/observations seebee. Those questions should have been raised and answered during the committee meetings. Too bad those meetings were a sham. The committee members had already decided their votes and used the time to see which teachers were there on personal leave or not. Now good luck getting answers.

2) Comment by seebee - 27/05/2012

If the purpose of vouchers/charters is purely altruistic, please reconcile these questions to that thought. First, if the rules that charters have been and will be allowed to operate under are so great, why have all public schools not been given the same opportunities without 29 strings attached? Secondly, if the purpose of vouchers is to rescue children from failing schools, why are ALL Kindergarten children allowed to apply regardless of their school assignment? Will this allowance follow the direction of the RSD and add a grade each year? If so, there must be another reason for vouchers. Thirdly, how does one know that private schools outperform public schools when the same statistics are not available from private schools? Will private schools be forced to prove themselves as well?

3) Comment by 8.3 - 27/05/2012

Good post Dawson, you are right on. proposed SE Baton Rouge, Central , Zachary, et. al.. are "continuing the path of failure that currently exist" , if private schools in Louisiana are "quality" education., that's the best you can do? Y'all are still last because most of the native born with the wherewithal and intelligence tend to leave, leaving the inbred ones to continue that evolution of "quality". Supposedly there is a net in-migration, but there sure is a lot more Spanish being spoken. What y'all gonna do with their offspring? Y'all a have a major problem that is getting worse with current state political policies "continuing the path of failure that currently exist". Good luck.

4) Comment by bettergovt - 27/05/2012

Dawson, that is my point. Jindal did no different than the liberals but worse because at $8700 a year, the poor can afford to send their kids to more expensive schools than the middle class can afford. It is like they gave out food stamps that allowed the poor to eat at Ruth's Chris for every meal. This school voucher system is worse because it affords them to get, on the tax payers dime, beyond simple basic necessities but luxuries that the common people cant. Its like if that cell phone program gave people the most expensive 64g Iphone made.

5) Comment by Dawson - 27/05/2012

Good post 8.3, you are right on. Imagine how "backward, uneducated and poor" Louisiana would be without the private schools providing what amounts to the majority of the quality education in this state. Just about anything is better than continuing the path of failure that currently exist.

6) Comment by 8.3 - 27/05/2012

right 8.6 , "nothing new here" the U.S. Census Bureau has repeatedly counted Louisiana as one of the states with nation’s highest percentage of native born among its residents. So why is Louisiana one of the most backward, uneducated and poor states, which translates to economically disadvantaged, do you think, given the large number of private schools?

7) Comment by Dawson - 27/05/2012

@bettergov. The situation you outline with income cut offs is prevalent in every single single govt program. The line is drawn whether it be welfare, food stamps or housing. It's all based on some income standard. Nothing new or different exist in this way to pay plan. As for transportation, EBR is already bussing kids all over the place with the magnet programs that take kids far from their neighborhoods. Some schools don't accept bussing so that makes it the responsibility of the parent to get the kids to school. Oh the harshness of making parents responsible for their kids!

8) Comment by teacherguy - 26/05/2012

There we go with teacher unions again....the unions have been freaking impotent since 1979!!!!! That was the last actual strike. Please shut up with the union talk...I've been a member for 18 years and have NEVER once been asked to act until this legislation. Teachers are not allowed to "fix" anything...I know, everyone else ties our hands and then tells us what to do via BESE, legislative sessions, etc. Here are my complaints about this voucher issue, EVERYONE should be allowed to have them...forget the dollar amount. If I were a parent paying tuition and the kid sitting next to mine got a free ride...I'd be ticked off. Also, there is a "pay off" date of Oct. 1 where the school gets the cash for the year for the kid. But what if the kid drops, leaves, is asked to never come back, etc. from Oct. 2 to the end of the year? He moves back to the public school which is not going to receive money for him...the pay-outs should be done monthly depending on where the kid is going to school. This is one of the ways the for-profit charters will make money off of charters coming...the voucher shouldn't be paid for the year, it should be paid by the month.

9) Comment by 8point6 - 26/05/2012

nothing new here. I can't understand why my tax dollars have supported public schools for 50 plus years, and yet, I had to pay for my childrens' private/parochial schools with no "vouchers" help from the taxes I have paid for public schools. Hey "progressive" friends/teachers' unions, you've had 50 years to run the public education into the ground and you did a great job. Now, let the adults fix this system.

10) Comment by bettergovt - 26/05/2012

The MFP has to be based on a average cost student. Special needs students and special ed students have to cost more which the private schools wont take so the private schools will get the cheap students for their voucher leaving the expensive students in the public schools for the same average MFP. We will see what that does to the public schools across the state.

11) Comment by phil - 26/05/2012

This reminds me of the law of diminishing returns and other economic principles. Keep adding schools with the same number of students to attend and something has to give. What will probably give is taxpayers' money, in my opinion. Who do you think will end up paying for the added maintenance of the added schools the added transportation that will be required etc. in the long term. Nothing is really free you know. Oh I forgot to add that the schools that students will leave are not really getting fixed at all, they are just being vacated.

12) Comment by zealer99 - 26/05/2012

The comments that I see are edge issues that might possibly maybe come into play. The real problem is the condition of the schools and I do not mean the physical facilities or the finances. The students do not value an education and their parents do not value an education and I refer to a high school education at this point. The students challenge authority figures and their parents side with the students no matter how far out of line they get, Somewhere along the way an avenue should exist for the average student to obtain the best education possible and I think this voucher system may be a means. It is not perfect but it might help some students.

13) Comment by bettergovt - 26/05/2012

Jeffshadow has diarrhea of the mouth or fingers on his keyboard. It still doesn't change the fact that if someone makes just over the limit his kids have to go to the failing public school while parents of kids just under the limit gets a free ride to a supposedly better private school. Is there something magical about $57,000 a year? $56,000 cant afford to pay private school tuition for 2 kids while $58,000 magically can afford the $12,000 -$17,000 that the poorer family gets at the cost of the taxpayers? Explain the logic in that one Jindalshadow, I mean Jeffshadow. Do you ever think for yourself or do just spend all of your time defending the golden child?

14) Comment by timesright - 26/05/2012

jeffsadow, it wouldn't make any difference what anybody pointed out to you that is wrong with the voucher plan, you'd still tout Jindal's plan and go along with anything he thinks is the "right" thing to do.

15) Comment by jeffsadow - 26/05/2012

Fortunately, help is on the way for our confused and uninformed commenters. First, public school districts actually provide transportation for private schools certified by the state as by L.R.S. 17:158. Second, and related, decades ago the U.S. Supreme Court ruled constitutional government involvement in activities that are non-secular even if they assist religiously-affiliated institutions, so even if tuition dollars go to Catholic schools, that is constitutional and as far as LA goes, its constitution specifies only that the state fund elementary and secondary education in any matter it sees fits, not exclusively "public" elementary and secondary education. Third, taxpayer burden will not change under the law, because the state portion to go to a non-district public school subtracted from its per student share of the MFP for any given district is lower than its current contribution. Finally, while the political left overemphasizes raw political motivations and power acquisition in constructing issue preferences, conservatism is based upon the idea that there exist universal truths about human beings and that government and the policy it produces should be congruent with these, in order to allow human beings to maximize their chances at leading better lives. The reason why Jindal and many support these is, as the school administrator in the article noted, it is the morally correct thing to do, "social justice" he argued (an overused and often improperly used term to be sure, but in this instance, accurately). If you properly understand conservatism (unlike the wild-eyed conspiracy theorists who claim Jindal is trying to sell education to the highest bidders), you understand Jindal's motive.

16) Comment by squiggly - 26/05/2012

To those of you who are saying that poor kids will get to go to private schools on the state's dime, are missing the point. As phil pointed out, there is a transportation issue with many of the very low income kids. People living in poverty, often can't afford a car, the cost of gas, and insurance. Not only is a lack of transportation a hindrance in getting a job, it will also be one in getting their kids to school. I can't help but think that Jindal and his cronies knew this from the start. The purpose of the vouchers is to get lower middle whites out of the public school system. A family of 4 with an income of $57,625 qualify for the vouchers. A family on that income, probably could not afford to send 2 children to private school (they could, but it would be really tough), but now they can.

17) Comment by bettergovt - 26/05/2012

I dont see how this is politically wise for Jindal. He really is planning on leaving the state soon because the only group that will really benefit from this is the inner city poor which will never vote for him for any office. The inner city rich will look at the voucher kids getting to go to the private schools that they will have to pay more for because of the influx of people that have $8700 per year of voucher money. The people outside of the city will see their tax dollars going to send poor people's kids to high dollar private schools that they cant afford to send their kids to and is probably why they moved out of Baton Rouge to begin with. The only way this makes sense is when you look at Bobby traveling the country bragging about how he "fixed" Louisiana's educational system.

18) Comment by phil - 26/05/2012

Still haven't gotten an answer of how all of these poor students will get to their new schools. Will they have to go to a school that is on their existing bus route? Will poor parents have to take their children to the new schools and pay for all of that added expense of gas etc. Will we see a lot more traffic congestion in the morning and afternoon because all of these people are driving to their new school? WIll taxpayers possibly somehow pay for all of that too? Just want a simple answer for a simple question. Also will some individuals/organizations in BR who already have a lot of money get into the pay-for-your-education for-profit private-school business in the future?

19) Comment by sharpie - 26/05/2012

P.S. Can someone explain to me my University Lab isn't accepting the vouchers since the golden children go there?

20) Comment by sharpie - 26/05/2012

@bettergovt - You pretty much hit the nail on the head. There are other multiple issues with this as well. This is a TERRIBLE idea, yet the brain washed, "golden boy" worship crowd (mainly pro-life fanatics who can't see past one issue) are quietly tolerating this. I have yet to talk to one public or private school parent who is thrilled either. They totally voted against their constituents on this one. People MUST take their heads out of the sand. However, I suspect the tide is turning against golden boy more and more each day.

21) Comment by bettergovt - 26/05/2012

What happens if the family starts out below the limit and then makes too much money? Do they have to start paying tuition or does the kid get kicked out because his or her parents make too much money?

22) Comment by bourbon-soda - 26/05/2012

@bettergovt - Good post. Just another benefit for being a degenerate ward of the state, along with AFDC, Medicaid, housing, etc while earning money in the untaxed underground economy.

23) Comment by lovemykids - 26/05/2012

I still do not understand how my tax dollars can be used to pay for religious education. Am I wrong in thinking this is something that is going to end up in court?

24) Comment by bettergovt - 26/05/2012

What I cant understand is how Bobby, the tea party golden boy, could create the most blatant social program that screws over the middle class, and still be lauded. This will drive up tuition cost for every family over the income limit that would like to send their kids to private school. And since it is coming from tax payers, they are paying for it. A family of 4 with household income of $65,000 will have to pay full tuition to send their kids to a private school but they are paying taxes to send the lower income kids to a school better than the one their kids got to. The middle class family cant afford to send their kids to private school but the poor family gets to go for free? How is that fiscally conservative?