Louisiana delegation split in debt-ceiling fight

Congress last week extended yet another “debt ceiling” fight until May.

Now the Louisiana delegation and congressional leaders will spend most of February attempting to work out a way to avoid across-the-board, automatic spending cuts.

Louisiana Republicans contend the focus must rest almost entirely on carefully cutting down the nation’s $16.4 trillion deficit.

Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., and other Democrats insist any deal must include increased revenues through closing corporate tax loopholes and other measures.

The debt ceiling dictates how much the federal government can borrow to pay its expenses.

The 2011 Budget Control Act compromise ended the debt ceiling standoff that year.

The act required Congress to make a budget-cutting agreement or face $110 million in cuts to spending on government services beginning on Jan. 1.

A last-minute deal on New Year’s night, which increased taxes on wealthy Americans, postponed that trigger date until March 1 for the across-the-board cuts to defense and other discretionary spending.

The automatic cuts are called “sequestration.”

They were always intended as a last resort and incentive to forge a larger budget compromise between Democrats and Republicans on how to pay for federal government programs: increase revenues or decrease the services.

“We’re having the tax increases. Now we’re having the debt increases,” Sen. David Vitter, R-La., said Thursday on the Senate floor. “When are we going to have any spending decreases?”

Cuts and revenues

Landrieu, however, argued that any deal must include Republicans accepting more revenues by eliminating some of the corporate-desired credits, such as “closing offshore tax havens” for corporations.

“There is no doubt that we have a budget challenge on our hands and that revenues are not in line with spending,” she said. “I have been saying consistently for years now that, in order to correct it, you’ve got to have both additional revenues and spending reductions.”

Landrieu blamed Fox News and Republicans for focusing on nondefense discretionary spending as out of control. She noted the spending includes paying for veterans’ benefits, transportation infrastructure, education and more.

The real spending problem is with mandatory spending for “earned benefits” programs like Social Security, she said. There are a lot more retirees. Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid combine for more than 40 percent of federal spending, she said.

“Those are programs that are driving up spending, but that’s the way it should be when the recession is going on,” Landrieu said. “That’s why unemployment insurance is there and that’s why food stamps are there, when people lose their jobs to provide the safety net.”

At the same time, she said, federal revenues as a percentage of the gross domestic product are the lowest they have been since before President Dwight Eisenhower in the 1950s was in office because Republicans would not consider any new revenues until President Barack Obama won re-election.

Landrieu argued that the past Congress resulted in more than $1.5 trillion in budget cuts over 10 years compared with $600 billion in new revenues.

“What there’s no explanation for is the falloff on revenues. Other than, you know, Republicans I guess are against all taxes being paid under any circumstance for any reason,” she said.

But that argument is not going to win over many, if any, Republican members of the Louisiana delegation.

Rep. Steve Scalise, R-Jefferson, who now chairs the conservative Republican Study Committee caucus, said the Democrats already won their tax hikes on Jan. 1.

“The problem with liberals is they have no end to the appetite to get more tax increases,” Scalise said. “These cuts happen (on March 1) whether liberals in Washington want them to happen or not.”

Federal spending on things like food stamps is way up under Obama and must be reined in, Scalise said.

The dean of the Louisiana House delegation, Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-Quitman, said the next couple months will make for an “interesting time” as the aforementioned arguments are hashed out.

Alexander has argued it is time to make cuts where possible, but also on the “sacred cows” such as defense spending and raising the age of Medicare qualifying without impacting those about to retire.

“I certainly hope we can look at things open-mindedly,” Alexander said.

Debt ceiling caveat

While Congress opted to extend the debt ceiling limit on federal borrowing through May 18 — intentionally pushed back after the March 1 spending cuts trigger — House Republicans only agreed to do so after adding a “no budget, no pay” provision that would withhold pay for House and Senate members, if their chamber fails to pass a budget plan by April 15.

That was a direct shot at the Democratic-controlled Senate, which has not passed a budget blueprint since 2009. The Senate has approved only short-term fixes like the Budget Control Act.

“I’m so pleased the Senate will finally have to pass a budget,” said Rep. Bill Cassidy, R-Baton Rouge.

Cassidy said it is virtually impossible for the House to compromise with the Senate when the Senate has yet to put forth a budget proposal.

The Senate must learn to pass the “kitchen table test” of only spending what you have just as families must, he said.

“Sure, it’s going to be a fight just as it is at the kitchen table, but at least they know what they’re fighting about,” Cassidy said. “At some point, you’ve got to rein in the spending.”

While House Democrats mostly balked at the April 15 target as “gimmick politics,” the Democratic Senate leadership called it a sign of Republican compromise.

The Senate leadership claimed they will pass a budget.

But Rep. Cedric Richmond, D-New Orleans, was among those voicing frustration with the Republican “gimmicks.”

“The Republicans did exactly what they wanted to do and created another fiscal cliff,” Richmond said. “The Republicans are still talking about the same talking points from before the election they lost.

“Let’s deal with the facts and not be in campaign mode still,” he added.

Richmond said it is “hogwash” for the House’s Republican majority to blame the Senate, where Democrats hold the majority, when all the House does is pass slight variations of the budget plan authored by Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis.

The Ryan plan, he said, makes most cuts on the backs of the middle class and working poor.

“It’s a nonstarter. It doesn’t get us to the point of negotiating because it’s such an awful budget,” Richmond said.

Closer than they sound

Despite a lot of sharp disagreements and strong rhetoric, most of the Louisiana members still say they are “cautiously optimistic” deals will come to fruition on sequestration and more.

Cassidy, Alexander and Scalise all said they are willing to implement more defense budget cuts.

They would just prefer that the cuts coincide more with the drawdown of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and not the draconian, across-the-board sequestration cuts.

Richmond, for instance, took a more conservative posture in expressing a willingness to cut the federal budget more on foreign aid.

“We need to take a hard look at foreign aid and whether countries are our true allies or not,” he said.

Louisiana Republicans and Democrats alike also are willing to look at cuts — or “reforms” — on spending for programs like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, in order to make them more viable for future generations.

Where they may not agree is on exactly how.

Cassidy said most everyone agrees they want to approach like a surgeon, focusing on specific cuts rather than using a “blunt ax” that chops broadly.

“But it might turn out no one can agree on what to put the scalpel,” Cassidy said.

Landrieu said she will consider all proposals on the table, including increasing the Medicare qualification age, but she insists more revenues must have a place on the same table.

“The Republicans had a wakeup call this election, and they seem to be much more willing to meet in the middle ground,” she said, “and that’s where we need to be working together for a common result.”


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Comments (14)


1) Comment by Whatnow - 04/02/2013

Mary Landrieu sounds like an idiot. If private sector spending is stagnant, it's because of Obama's regulations and they don't trust him.

2) Comment by Lannonmac - 04/02/2013

First of all, the debt ceiling has nothing to do with future government spending and only addresses spending ALREADY AUTHORIZED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Therefore, failing to raise the debit ceiling will do nothing about the so called deficit problem, but what it will do is wreck the economy and send the USA and the rest of the Western World into another deep recession (if not depression). Second, failing to honor past debts already authorized by the House of Representatives will violate the 14th Amendment and create a Constitutional crisis where the Presidency is ordered by Congress to pay the bill it authorized, but denying the Presidency the ability to pay the bills Congress created. Sounds like a silly plot of a movie, but that is what passes for reality in the Republican controlled US House of Representatives. In a totally separate matter, “Some left-leaning economists, like Paul Krugman, say deficits do not matter” and he is correct! With today’s circumstances of historic low interest rates and very low inflation the size of the US deficit is not a pressing concern. Right now private sector spending is stagnant, causing high unemployment, therefore the textbook remedy is to increase public sector spending to put people back to work. Folks this is not just theory, there is plenty of proof that this is an effective way of dealing with a recession/depression, dating all the way back to the Roosevelt Administration and was the dominate economic policy of the USA from 1933 to around 1980. If you want a good overview of the Great Recession of 2008 and possible policy solutions to the recession, go read Paul Krugman’s new book, “End this Depression Now.”

3) Comment by agagent - 04/02/2013

Democrat’s policies have chased businesses off shore and now Mary is complaining about it. You could have supported pro-growth policies and reaped the increase in government revenue but you didn’t. Now we have run out of money to reward the Obama/Landrieu voters. It is all the fault of Fox News. Maybe it was the TEA Party’s fault for wanting to stop the wasteful, irresponsible, federal spending and balance the federal budget. They have such extreme views.

4) Comment by agagent - 04/02/2013

Medicaid, Medicare, and Social are unsustainable and are headed for bankruptcy. They also represent the largest unfunded liabilities of the federal government. They must be reformed to be saved and to address the long term deficit problem. When Republicans suggest reform the Democrats demagogue the issue and scuttle any plans to save the programs.

5) Comment by phil - 04/02/2013

Everyone on the count of three yell as loudly as you can - A $16.4 TRILLION NATIONAL DEBT IS WAY TOO MUCH. I do not think Congress has heard that loud enough yet from us citizens for it to sink in.

6) Comment by 8point6 - 04/02/2013

"Landrieu blamed Fox News and Republicans for focusing on nondefense discretionary spending as out of control." Well, mary, I blame abc, cbs, nbc, msnbc, cnn, this medium, the new york times, the l.a. times, etc, and the democrats for biased news reporting.

7) Comment by wherearewegoing - 04/02/2013

The "we need to pay our bills" line is a little misleading. I don't think conservatives are advocating being deadbeats and not paying for what we need. Conservatives are saying to stop spending money on new things we don't need, and to stop spending so much on old things that are overfunded or, better yet, shouldn't be funded in the first place. Make cuts. This isn't hard to grasp (or at least, it shouldn't be). By all means, pay what we owe, but stop ringing up new charges on the card!

8) Comment by agagent - 04/02/2013

All that government spending has not produced the jobs, and the BLS unemployment rate is a fairy tale. If the labor participation rate were the same as when Obama first took office, the unemployment rate would be about 11%. If millions of job-seekers had not stopped looking for work, the unemployment rate would be 10.4%. Five million green jobs were not created, as Obama promised. Instead we have billions of taxpayer dollars wasted on now bankrupt companies like Solyndra. In spite of Obama fighting oil and gas, they have given the economy a boost.

9) Comment by agagent - 04/02/2013

In the past we could say the national debt was money we owned ourselves, but now it is money we own to countries like China. We are sending enough interest payments to China to fund their military. If the Democrats continue to get their way, with the help of the media, we will be sending a lot more money to China so they can have a huge expansion of their military while we are reducing our national defense. Deficits do matter.

10) Comment by agagent - 04/02/2013

Some left-leaning economists, like Paul Krugman, say deficits do not matter (He only says that when Democrats are in the white house). The national debt is already wasting more than $200 billion a year in interest, and that is with record low interest rates. Just imagine the waste when Obama and the Democrats increase the debt to $20 trillion and interest rates return to normal. We could be wasting a trillion a year on interest.

11) Comment by lovemykids - 04/02/2013

JeffryLaMonteSanford, sounds like a great idea (ha). Let's not pay our bills. After all the US is on the same economic level as those countries you mentioned.

12) Comment by agagent - 04/02/2013

A little arithmetic lesson for Mary: Last year’s deficit was $1.3 trillion, so reducing it by 0.15 trillion a year still leaves trillion dollar annual deficits. The so-called spending cuts are just reductions in planned increases, anyway, and not real cuts (They speak a different language in Washington). As soon as taxes were raised on the rich Obama and the Democrats spent it in the fiscal cliff deal. That deal will add about $4 trillion to the deficit. So much for your fictional deficit reduction Mary.

13) Comment by JeffryLaMonteSanford - 04/02/2013

The Republicans need to block passage of any further extension of the debt ceiling. There will never be an agreement on cuts. The votes aren't there for it. But the problem of 16 trillion dollar debt can be fixed by repudiating it. Economic chaos would result for a time. But real change would be forced. Currency exchange controls would be needed. Like anyone else that goes bankrupt, we would need to switch to a cash only, "pay as you go" economy. The Federal Reserve banking system would be ended. As would most, if not all, federal bureaucracies. The economy would essentially reset itself to normal Look at the example of Iceland. Sweden, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria countries who survived the global economic meltdown without central bank intervention and now lead the world. Without the burden of our debt, the economy would soar, almost immediately. With proper planning, civil unrest would be minimal and after order was restored, our children's future would be secured for generations.

14) Comment by JeffryLaMonteSanford - 04/02/2013

The Republicans need to block passage of any further extension of the debt ceiling. There will never be an agreement on cuts. The votes aren't there for it. But the problem of 16 trillion dollar debt can be fixed by repudiating it. Economic chaos would result for a time. But real change would be forced. Currency exchange controls would be needed. Like anyone else that goes bankrupt, we would need to switch to a cash only, "pay as you go" economy. The Federal Reserve banking system would be ended. As would most, if not all, federal bureaucracies. The economy would essentially reset itself to normal Look at the example of Iceland. Sweden, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria countries who survived the global economic meltdown without central bank intervention and now lead the world. Without the burden of our debt, the economy would soar, almost immediately. With proper planning, civil unrest would be minimal and after order was restored, our children's future would be secured for generations.