Louisiana ranks high in educational standards, low in student performance

Earlier this month, a national report gave Louisiana an F for student achievement, better marks in other areas and an overall rating of 15th in the nation.

Contradictory?

Not so, current and former school leaders said.

Generally speaking, public school students in Louisiana rank near the bottom in reports on classroom performance and have held that spot for years.

The F rating, which came from Education Week magazine, was the third such grade in a row.

Other national studies have given the state similar ratings in the past.

But the state often wins high marks for accountability and other tools used to measure what students know and teacher quality.

The same report that gave the state failing marks for student achievement — arguably the most important — also gave Louisiana an A for education standards, assessments and accountability.

The review also gave Louisiana an A for aligning early childhood education with training for college and careers.

Gov. Bobby Jindal and state Superintendent of Education John White seized on the good marks and ignored the F for student achievement in a prepared news release at the time.

It all appears confusing to parents and other taxpayers wondering about the state of public schools amid the current push to improve public schools, which began in 1999.

Yet current and former education leaders say the Education Week report and others point to the fact that Louisiana generally gets low marks for classroom performance and often receives high marks for policies designed to improve public education.

“We are still a very low-performing state,” said Leslie Jacobs, a former member of Louisiana’s top school board and one of the architects of the state’s accountability system.

The percentage of children in poverty — roughly two-thirds of the state’s 712,000 public school students qualify for free and reduced lunches — is a key factor in achievement rankings, Jacobs and others noted.

“It shouldn’t be that way but it means we have a steeper hill to climb,” she said.

That said, Jacobs added, gains in the public high school graduation rate and other areas show some of the state’s relatively new public school policies are showing dividends.

The rate was 71.4 percent in 2011, up from 67.2 percent the year before in a category that often measures gains and losses in tenths of a point.

“That is an example of the policy that is actually having an impact,” Jacobs said.

The Education Week report issued Jan. 10 is hardly the first such study that led to confusion over the quality of public schools.

Two years ago results of the National Assessment of Educational Progress — dubbed the nation’s report card — said public school students here scored lower in science than students in most other states.

In August 2011, the same group said math and reading standards in Louisiana are below those set by NAEP and that gains on state tests were not reflected with similar improvements on the national test.

But in January, a group called StudentsFirst, in a report trumpeted by state officials, said the state has the best “policy environments” in the nation for improving public schools, including an A in efforts to improve the teaching profession.

The study did not rate student achievement or school quality.

In an interview, White said that when Louisiana students are compared in aggregate with those nationwide “our kids’ performance is relatively low.

“However, the reports indicate that we are putting policies in place that are going to change that and we are already seeing indications of good, positive change.”

White said the state’s improved high school graduation rate, fewer dropouts and better ACT results — a test of college readiness — are all positive signs.

Laura Lindsay, dean of the LSU College of Human Sciences and Education, said school watchers need to pay close attention to details of any report on public schools.

“You have to look carefully at what is the organization doing it, who is funding it, what is their intent and what process have they followed to get their results,” Lindsay said.

She said the group that ranked Louisiana tops in the nation for its rules to improve public education is headed by former District of Columbia Public Schools Chancellor Michelle Rhee, a critic of the education establishment.

Earlier this month, the National Council on Teacher Quality gave the state a C for how teachers are prepared, and criticized what it called lax admission rules to enter teacher training programs.

Lindsay said the review failed to note that students have to clear a relatively high academic hurdle before they can be admitted to LSU and other requirements before they can enter the education college.

“We are pretty selective compared to other universities,” she said.

Kate Walsh, president of the NCTQ, said she understands the frustration of public servants, and how baffling it can be for taxpayers who hear about so many education reports.

“The more people that do it the more confusing it becomes,” Walsh said.


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Comments (20)


1) Comment by Elderly Man - 28/01/2013

Thank you, SuzanneMS.

2) Comment by bourbon-soda - 28/01/2013

Because then it would have been completely futile?

3) Comment by teacherguy - 28/01/2013

So, let me get this straight...LA's teacher standards are ranked high...yet the student achievement ranks low? Hmmm....there seems to be a disconnect here. The reality is the lowest schools make state achievement gains look REALLY bad...low scores devastate more than good scores prop up. I'm not sure why the reforms targeted 100% of the state's schools...when the reforms could have been tailored to the 45% of schools that are deemed "failing"?

4) Comment by ultimateliberal - 28/01/2013

It's the parents, NOT the teachers. It's the home environment, NOT the classroom. It's the community's mistrust of teachers' efforts to civilize the children who come to them as misguided animals. It's the striving to teach basic skills six grades below level while bringing students to testing level--no one can learn all that in one year if he/she never valued it during the prior six years.......... This has nothing to do with poverty; it has everything to do with the family culture of focused excellence or hopeless failure and the continuum between those poles. Been there, done that.......... every child can learn if parents don't disrespect the teachers and the education they offer to the next generation.

5) Comment by Girls Can Tell - 28/01/2013

@SuzanneMS, you are correct in your basic premise. The problem is that the number of black children in poverty vs. the number of white children in poverty, per capita, is disproportional. This situation makes it very much appear to the casual observer to be a race issue. The clear problem here is that the politicians who create policy refuse to point the finger where it has to be pointed if there is ever going to be change: at the parent(s). Meanwhile, teachers toil away within an environment that continuously worsens and are expected to produce better and better results when the true variable that could make it happen is beyond their control.

6) Comment by nimby? - 28/01/2013

will agree , you can lead a horse to water . facts are facts , parents are not being parents , this is more of an occurrence within the black community , sorry . another fact that crosses all lines ; there is a direct correlation between lack of education , employment opportunities , incarceration . without an education you will become a ward of the state , one way or another . go to school , learn ...

7) Comment by mj6338 - 28/01/2013

RE: "The Realist" and "SuzanneMS" I truly regret that my comments offended you. I thought awhile about not writing anything and keeping my mouth shut. But after teaching in the Orleans Parish school system from 1984-1991 and the EBR system from 1992-2004, I and most all of my co workers well understand my feelings. And yes "SisanneMS", you I agree with you qualitatively but quantitatively I suggest you recheck your numbers. I think you may be surprised. Let's all remember that free speech promotes the truth in the long run and that enables the development of us all.

8) Comment by SuzanneMS - 28/01/2013

All of which suggests that it's not the teachers. Yes, the comment is racist and it's based on a fallacy. "The bulk of the public school student body in Louisiana" is white, not black. White children in poverty do as poorly in school as black children in poverty. There is a strong anti-intellectual bias in segments of the white community, particularly in rural areas. Black families who are concerned about their children's education are as likely as white families to sacrifice in order to put their children into private schools in Louisiana -- and that is a major problem in Louisiana. Public schools have to deal with a disproportionate number of children who are poor, learning disabled, physically disabled, and discipline problems, while the better students leave for private schools. The comparisons across states do not take this into account.

9) Comment by NationalSEC - 28/01/2013

The Realist, I must respectfully disagree with you that the comments of mj6338 were at their core racist. I am a Louisiana native living now in Virginia and i watch this issue closely, and while his comments might be more compelling with data supporting his supposition, there is data available today that supports the demographic and ethnic breakdown of the public school population and it points to his comments. Additionally, there are several studies available online that speak to the value to assigned to education among and within minority communities and many of the studies point to the african american population in particular. Racist? I think not. An unvarnished, sad and regrettable truth? Perhaps.

10) Comment by HMaltravers - 28/01/2013

To SPQR: Amen! I hate it when individuals who have never taught school or only taught a couple of years dictate education policy. Oh, wait a minute, I keep forgetting that people who went to school automatically think they are qualified to make policy. That's like saying because a person has been to a dentist, he/she automatically knows how to work on teeth.

11) Comment by The Realist - 28/01/2013

Only took 9 comments until we got a racist one!

12) Comment by mj6338 - 28/01/2013

Stories written about this subject never want to touch the heart of the matter: that in Louisiana the bulk of the public school student body is black and academic performance is just not a part of prevailing black culture. It doesn't significantly matter where they go to school; we've had bussing for half a century now . . . what a wild goose chase. If people were really serious about this issue they should focus on changing black culture and educational issues would in time take care of themselves. But that would not be politically correct so we'll continue the status quo.

13) Comment by tradewinns - 28/01/2013

untill our useless politicians decide to fix the real problem-the parents-we will see this type of article every so often and there will be only minor change, change could go either way. for a politician, it is easier to throw more money at a problem and stall rather than having to really do anything about it. they can say "we're working as hard as we can on it right now". they are lying of course.

14) Comment by Concerned_Parent - 28/01/2013

Jindal and White are like the "wizard" from the Wizard of Oz....Don't look at what's behind the curtain, just listen to the sound of our voices.

15) Comment by phil - 28/01/2013

What a mess! I think we can greatly improve this situation if we make some people rich by increasing the number of private schools in LA that are in business to make a profit. After all, the more taxpayers spend, the better the results are - right? WRONG!

16) Comment by swinham - 28/01/2013

I guess these articles are easy to write because all you have to do is a little cut and paste and change some names of the people and organizations. Our public schools do not do well, but we have really good assessment tools. Is this, or anything else in this article, news?

17) Comment by Pakistani - 28/01/2013

It's what happens when the kid gets off the bus at 3pm...

18) Comment by spqr - 28/01/2013

Leslie Jacobs said? She is a waste of an interview having never taught a day of school in her life. Please!

19) Comment by Bouncer - 28/01/2013

Louisiana is number one when it comes to having criteria in place that show how bad it is.

20) Comment by Whatnow - 28/01/2013

"The percentage of children in poverty — roughly two-thirds of the state’s 712,000 public school students qualify for free and reduced lunches — is a key factor in achievement rankings, Jacobs and others noted." Ya think??