Survey: BR not gay friendly

Baton Rouge’s municipal leaders and local laws ranked among the lowest scoring in a nationwide survey of cities with gay and transgender friendly policies conducted by the Human Rights Campaign, the nation’s largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender civil rights organization.

Baton Rouge received 2 points out of a possible score of 100, tying it with Cheyenne, Wyo., as the fourth least LGBT friendly city, according to the survey.

New Orleans, the only other Louisiana city included in the study, received 79 points, placing it among the top quarter of high-scoring cities.

Only Montgomery, Ala., Frankfort Ky., and Jefferson City, Mo., with scores of 0, performed worse than Baton Rouge.

“We’re doing pretty badly, but none of this is a surprise,” said Matt Patterson, chair of education and advocacy for the Capital City Alliance, Baton Rouge’s LGBT organization. “We don’t have most legal protections that most people expect now-a-days. It puts it all in black and white, and pretty accurately, how far we have to go.”

The inaugural report evaluated 137 cities, which included the 50 state capitals, the 50 largest cities per the 2010 Census, and small, mid-size and large cities with high numbers of same-sex couples, according to the Williams Institute at the UCLA School of Law.

The cities were given points based on criteria that included whether a city has laws that prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity in areas of employment, housing and public accommodations.

It also awarded points for cities that had a domestic partner registry, employed an LGBT mayoral liaison and provided leadership in public positions regarding equality, including equality in policy efforts.

Baton Rouge Mayor-President Kip Holden declined an interview, but his aide, Scott Dyer, said in a statement Holden has a record of reaching out to the LGBT community.

“On May 1, 2006, Mayor Holden revised the City-Parish’s Equal Employment Opportunity policy to prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation,” Dyer said. “The change also reaffirmed the city-parish’s commitment to maintain a work environment free of all forms of discrimination and harassment.”

He also said Holden provides an annual proclamation recognizing the efforts of the CCA.

Bruce Parker, managing director of the CCA, said he feels the survey may have missed some opportunities to award points to Baton Rouge, considering Holden’s efforts.

Joe Traigle, a gay advocate and local businessman, said the city-parish leaders haven’t gone far enough in passing laws that protect all Baton Rouge residents, not just municipal employees.

“It starts with leadership. It starts with the mayor working the council and (the Baton Rouge Area Chamber), getting them on board,” Traigle said. “It’s time to say that we, Baton Rouge, are better than our past.”

Traigle along with two religious leaders spearheaded the One Baton Rouge resolution, which was a nonbinding piece of local legislation that expressed tolerance toward the LGBT community among other groups who have been discriminated against.

The Metro Council in 2007 rejected the One Baton Rouge resolution. In 2010 the new Metro Council brought it up for reconsideration, but its sponsors, Mike Walker and Alison Gary, withdrew the proposal before it was voted on because it lacked the votes for approval and ignited a firestorm from religious leaders who opposed it.

Traigle said reviving One Baton Rouge is “completely out of date” at this point.

“What Baton Rouge needs to do is leapfrog on this issue,” Traigle said. “We need an actual ordinance which prohibits discrimination in employment, housing and credit.”

Elaine Maccio, an LSU associate professor who studies LGBT issues, said the perception that Baton Rouge is not gay-friendly could hurt it economically.

“The mayor and other folks went to Nashville, Austin and Portland to see what those cities are doing that we’re not, and all of those cities welcome people from all sorts of backgrounds,” Maccio said. “Mayor Holden wants us to be the next great American city, and we could be except for a vocal minority that wants to hold us back.”

East Baton Rouge Parish Councilwoman Ronnie Edwards said she is among some of the members of the Metro Council who would not support another version of the One Baton Rouge resolution.

Edwards, who had a nephew killed in recent years because of his sexuality, said the item is “so polarizing” to Baton Rouge residents that it could have a harmful impact to the LGBT community.

“Other offline conversations need to take place before it’s considered,” she said.

Kenny Tucker, co-political director for the Forum for Equality Louisiana, said New Orleans’ high score is the product of years of working with local leaders to promote LGBT awareness.

He said in recent years Baton Rouge’s LGBT community has become increasingly more organized, adding that he thinks in “five to 10 years” studies will reflect that Baton Rouge has made changes favoring tolerance.

“This highlights where we currently are, but it doesn’t indicate that it’s a lost cause,” Tucker said of the survey’s results. “No cause worth fighting for is a lost cause.”

Gene Mills, president of the Louisiana Family Forum, which has opposed pro-gay legislation statewide, did not return a message left at his office Thursday.


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1) Comment by Bouncer - 13/12/2012

No idea why my comment was removed. In any case, here goes again. Phil, what you fail to realize is that what those two women do in the privacy of their home is none of your business. I suspect that your dwelling on what goes on in other people's bedrooms means that there's not much going on in your own. Mind your own business and stop trivializing other people's lives.

2) Comment by SacredCow - 12/12/2012

@phil- newsflash for you: you're actually not supposed to picture "everyone having sex with each other." That's really kind of a basic technique of not grossing yourself out regularly. I now have to deduce that you have spent time imagining your mom and dad going at it, yet you get on a high horse and call ME the deviant! Thanks for the jolly, gay laugh at your expense, buddy!

3) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 12/12/2012

phil, who is asking you to imagine "those same sweet little old ladies having sex together?" Should they also be burned at the stake because YOU feel the need to imagine intimate details of their PERSONAL life? Typical religious busybody, sheesh...

4) Comment by Bouncer - 12/12/2012

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5) Comment by phil - 11/12/2012

The picture of sweet little old ladies loving each other makes me want to just cry - at least until I think of those same sweet little old ladies having sex together. I think that everyone loving one another is a great thing, but everyone having sex with each other is a totally different issue.

6) Comment by nimby? - 11/12/2012

gays are the perfect candidate for a city like BR . they are more apt to move into blighted areas and restore them . they are more educated , earn more , pay more taxes , more dedicated to their partner , children , believe in education and discipline . and believe in god . there's a couple of young ladies I enjoy coffee with every tuesday morning . they are 83 and 79 . they've been together 52 years . both taught school locally for many years . they are active in the community and the church . when I see the love they have for each other it lifts my day .

7) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 11/12/2012

CajunSportsman, the old polygamy strawman, huh? You forgot to add pedophilia and bestiality. My only question is who is "trying to legislate and impose your morality on others"? Please cite examples. I am curious to know...

8) Comment by Whatnow - 11/12/2012

Touche, Phil. I also noticed that it is the atheists who bring up God the most. @twinkie1cat, Satan worshipers and God's will? Project much? Try again.

9) Comment by phil - 11/12/2012

DMJ - I also heard a theory that atheists really do believe in God and deep down they want to go to heaven with the rest of the good Christians (and other religions). Also there is a theory that homosexuals really desire to be straight and normal in their most inner feelings. Makes sense to me Try again.

10) Comment by DMJ - 11/12/2012

I read an article the other day in which the writer theorized that those who are homophobic to the point of being hostile are really bisexual, that the hostility and manifestations of it are the byproduct of a crisis of self-awareness and self-identity. They are scared of their own inner thoughts and desires which they have repressed their whole life and, as we all know, sexual repression causes anger (just look at the Middle East). Those who don't hate gay people and don't want to deny them rights suffer from no such crisis. Made sense to me.

11) Comment by Chucky - 11/12/2012

OK Bouncer - i will bite, how in heck have you noticed this ?

12) Comment by CountryBoysCanSurvive - 11/12/2012

So Now love my kids and raised on robbery..I see where your attacks on me generate from, have a nice day sweetie!

13) Comment by Bouncer - 11/12/2012

One thing I've noticed about Baton Rouge is the number of "straight" men who are married to women, but many of these same "straight" men cruise gay web sites, searching for men they can have sex with. I take that as being symptomatic of several things, not the least of which is that the cultural climate of this area encourages living a closeted life. That is to say, it doesn't matter what you are, just as long as you have an obvious foot in the world of heterosexual middle class respectability for appearance' sake. Now, that's a shame. I can't imagine anything more humiliating or damaging than living a lie, just to keep up appearances.

14) Comment by ABayouBoy - 11/12/2012

Well, I'm amazed!. BR does have something good going for it after all....

15) Comment by Stephen - 10/12/2012

I know some of Baton Rouge is gay friendly. Thankfully, Baton Rouge will become more and more gay friendly. If one looks at polls on issues around gay rights and such, one will see that younger people are ready to move forward. Next subject.

16) Comment by CajunSportsman - 10/12/2012

This should be titled, "Baton Rouge is ranked 3rd in U.S. among cities that support: free association, free enterprise, small government, unbiased public works bidding processes, citizen privacy, depoliticized crime reporting, and honoring the deeply held civilizational values of their citizens." Until the Human Rights Campaign embraces polygamy and intra- family civil rights, they should be rightly classified as a closed- minded and fraudulent organization. What a joke and such hypocracy. Quit trying to legislate and impose your morality on others just like you don't like having others' morality imposed on you.

17) Comment by BH1962 - 10/12/2012

Civil liberties are not a zero-sum situation. The city does not have a finite pool of rights. Granting liberties to LGBT people does not mean that hetero-people have fewer liberties.

18) Comment by wadep66 - 10/12/2012

Thanks for comments that only serve to underscore what the report finds. When you wonder why Baton Rouge can't progress and keep up with the rest of the country on economic, educational and criminal statistics, you have your hateful selves to thank. Try just once to put yourself in someone's shoes whose life is different from yours.

19) Comment by keith1966 - 10/12/2012

You think B.R. is not "gay friendly" try going down to some of them parishes along the cost and see how "gay friendly" they are......

20) Comment by crabby - 10/12/2012

They are destroying the sanctity of marriage! And by they I mean divorced people. When are we going to make divorce illegal and save the American family?

21) Comment by gary - 10/12/2012

@billynurse - I had an aunt who lost her life during the invasion of Normany - you only refer to the men who dies defending this country. @NearBarbarian you are spot on about Louisiana - I always think of Randy Newmans song that mentions students who went into LSU -- well never mind. I love how the bible thumpers start yelping about the good book - I wonder how many of them have actually read the bible from front to back - their book says god should love all it's people - in another verse it says men who lay down with men should be beheaded, now that is a good book - one of the best fiction novel ever written. Like I said below in another comment, Kip has an uphill battle with LGBT.

22) Comment by Chucky - 10/12/2012

From most of the post it appears it is more of a National issue than a Baton Rouge issue. We have gay bars and gay gatherings and am not aware of problems associated with them. The gay Pride Day was fun and again no problem. Most business of any size will hire a qualified gay employee in Baton Rouge. As I said I think it is more national than regional,and do not put much faith in the study or ranking given to Baton Rouge.

23) Comment by NearBarbarian - 10/12/2012

LGBT folks aren't trying to force anybody to do anything; they're just asking to be treated with the same respect other Americans typically expect. Moreover, the report is really just a statistical record with which people can do what they want. BTR being less tolerant will probably lead to fewer Gay people moving/remaining here, working here, shopping here, and paying taxes here. Just what BTR needs--another group of mainly middle-class people enriching another city and/or another state. Once again, Louisiana is earning its title as one of the dumbest states in the union.

24) Comment by billynurse - 10/12/2012

And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm freee! And I won't forget the men who died , and gave that right to meee! GOD BLESS THE U-S-AAAAA!!

25) Comment by Automobile - 10/12/2012

The nanny state is alive and growing, please I need more people telling what I should think and do.

26) Comment by MBW - 10/12/2012

Asking to be treated equally in the eyes of the law and asking people to "like us" are two separate things. I don't need you to like me....but I should be treated equally under the law. That doesn't happen right now.

27) Comment by twinkie1cat - 10/12/2012

First, gay people do reproduce. It is just that they sometimes have to make some special arrangements. The issue of adoption is a big one here in Louisiana because the partner cannot be listed on the adoption certificate and is, therefore, a "legal stranger" to the child. As a stranger he or she does not get automatic custody if the other dies and. The partner also cannot put the child on his or her health insurance. There are well over 100 benefits that married people get that gay couples don't. And it is not about public sex. Sounds like the bigots need to go back into their little closets and shut the door. Especially you, Tradewinns!

28) Comment by Being_Stupid - 10/12/2012

Being gay or not gay is a NON-ISSUE for most folks. The Rosie O' Donnells trying to force their gay agenda is the same when the Pat Robertsons try to force their religion on the individual. Most Individuals do not want either forced onto their way of life or their children's lives.

29) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 10/12/2012

Dawson, please cite examples of the "liberal left" forcing you personally to live contrary to your beliefs, denying your right to do so, then you may claim that my statement is a lie. /// Duckyluve, how is a "small self-serving group" trying to force you to embrace their lifestyle? No one has invited you into their bedroom. The LGBT community wants you to embrace the fact that equal rights should extended to ALL citizens. /// I think billynurse is trying to best LSUfan71 as the most mean spirited, hate-filled poster of the day (which is truly sad)

30) Comment by Duckyluve - 10/12/2012

I could care less who or what your in love with but I am sick of having a small self serving group try and force everybody else to embrace their way of life. Go live your life and do what makes you happy, why worry about what other people think of you? And im not just talking about gays here....

31) Comment by SacredCow - 10/12/2012

WhoCares- For the record, I am one of "the gays." And once my career in the chemical/refinery industry comes to a close I fully intend to retire to a city that is more accepting than Baton Rouge. I am accepted for who I am and what I do by my peers (including the church where I donate my time and talents as a musician) and that is all that really matters to me for the time being. I can only recall one instance in Baton Rouge where I felt like someone was threatening me because of their disdain for who I am, and let's just say that it did not end well for them; I don't rely on the government to keep me safe from harm- I take care of myself! All that said, I am a scientist as much (or more) than I'm gay, and sketchy data manipulation is one of my pet peeves!

32) Comment by WhoCares - 10/12/2012

nice work sacred cow. There is more to this than just a headline. Bottom line this is when the national liberal agenda and the moderate southern democrat agenda clash. There are a lot of democrats in LA that love Jesus (both white and black) and aren't down with the gays. Take an abortion bill for example; it's not unusual for an anti-abortion bill to pass 80 - 90%. It is just how it is. I liken it to what is happening in the republican party with the tea party nerds.

33) Comment by billynurse - 10/12/2012

Because this part of the country doesn't pander to "LGBT" and we don't let political correctness get shoved down our throats, it's called bigotry and "spewing hatred". What freedoms is Baton Rouge denying to anyone? Being tolerant and bending-over are 2 different things. Why is it always the left-wing demonstrations that become violent and destructive? (ie OccupyWallStreet) The Tea Party welcomes ALL freedom-loving Americans. - Signed: Proud Tea Party Patriot

34) Comment by SacredCow - 10/12/2012

I browsed through the results of this study, and I'm not convinced... New Orleans, as mentioned in the article, was given a score of 79 while Palm Springs, California (arguably the most gay-friendly city in the country) was given a 72. I find that very suspicious, and think that the metrics for the study were probably designed to skew the data. No- Baton Rouge is not a wonderful city to live in if you're gay, but I personally don't think that it's all "gloom and doom," either.

35) Comment by tradewinns - 10/12/2012

MBW and raisedonrobbery: as far as i'm concerned you should be able to marry and that includes live your life honestly and openly. as i stated previously, there are legal documents you can sign that will allow visitation and allow your partner to make life sustaining decisions for you in case of a health/accident event. i don't care who you live with or marry. in fact the divorce lawyers are salavating over the increased business once marriage includes homosexuals. i do want to qualify that is you are a homosexual male and behave in what society may feel is gauche, others may not feel comfortable in your presence. i do not include females because all females seem to act the same to me, and some i know are homosexual. you should and can live your life as you want. i do not feel anyone has to like you or has to hire you or give you any particular assistance in making others accept you. we are currently expericing those results from the welfare crowd. the government has taken much better care of them than the taxpayer and see how far they have come, absolutely nowhere that the government hasn't taken them. they have destroyed our public schools, our nice neighborhoods and our budgets. we have to stop somewhere making everyone special. if you believe it's not fair it's starts with you, that's too bad.

36) Comment by Dawson - 10/12/2012

"The liberal left is only intolerant of intolerance." That statement is simply one of the biggest lies ever posted on a opinion forum.

37) Comment by phil - 10/12/2012

Apparently the liberal left has an official spokesman here now since the word "we" is used when the liberal left is being discussed. It almost sounds to me like there are no Christians in the liberal left according to that spokesman. So tell me, what EXACTLY does the liberal left really believe in anyway?

38) Comment by Spudaroonski - 10/12/2012

Marriage is a function of religion and not government? Really? How come you have to get a marriage license from the state then?

39) Comment by Being_Stupid - 10/12/2012

Marriage is a function of Religion, not Government. Government should recognize Civil Unions and Contracts between folks, not Marriage.

40) Comment by Being_Stupid - 10/12/2012

:( - BR is not gay.

41) Comment by DMJ - 10/12/2012

The liberal left isn't telling Christians they can't get married, last I checked. We're not telling Christians they can't adopt children or expect equal treatment under the law in regards to housing, credit, employment. Try again, billynurse. The liberal left is only intolerant of intolerance.

42) Comment by phil - 10/12/2012

I think BR tolerates homosexuality but does not promote it, and I think that is a good position for any "next greatest" city to have.

43) Comment by Chucky - 10/12/2012

"Society needs children to perpetuate itself." We have enough, you can stop now.

44) Comment by twinkie1cat - 10/12/2012

Top of another bad list! Wow , who would have guessed? I mean Louisiana is so open minded and accepting? Well, Mike Walker is off the Council now so we don't have that problem any more. We had our first Equality March this year which is undoubtedly a preliminary to a real Pride Parade. Pride had about 5000 participants----up from 200 just 5 years ago. And now any gay or human rights organization has a safe, convenient place available to meet with two rooms that can each seat 100-300 in very comfortable chairs. A Christian transgendered person also ran for city council and did not get struck by lightning for trying. There are even a number of gay Republicans in Baton Rouge.......... It is time and past time for the bigoted, racist, satan worshippers of the Louisiana Family Forum to be ignored, for the Metro Council to unpurse their lips and get rid of their fears and for equal rights to be the watchword of Baton Rouge and evenutally Louisiana. Our American Constitution is not based on some mullah's interpretation of God's will but on freedom for all. Same sex marriage is the next civil right for all Americans. Equal rights has thousands of heterosexual supporters and the GLBT community works in all professions. Some are quite wealthy. Others are homeless or nearly so. Catch up, Baton Rouge. It's time to enter the realm of God's will and the will of America. The times they are a changing! You don't have to stay stuck in the 1950s forever.

45) Comment by bradartigue - 10/12/2012

We should focus our intolerance on petty crime, blight, gangs, murderers, corruption (politicians), and littering. All areas in which Baton Rouge ranks around #1.

46) Comment by Spudaroonski - 10/12/2012

@jeffshadow have you ever heard of adoption?

47) Comment by Being_Stupid - 10/12/2012

What good is a Resolution that bans discrimination, when we have Zoning Laws that prevent certain families from living in A1 Zoned Areas? The Parish Attorney has targeted and evicted disabled folks, senior citizens, gay and straight unmarried couples with children households from A1 Zoned Area. Instead of another stupid "resolution" or law that is supposed to end discrimination, HOW ABOUT ABOLISHING THE ORDINANCE THAT ACTUALLY DOES DISCRIMINATE and defines what is and is not a legal family in Baton Rouge? Not all households fit the definition as set forth in Leave it to Beaver.

48) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 10/12/2012

billynurse, et al: No one is intolerant of your "christian values" except when you use those "values" to spew hatred (see LSUfan71's posts) or to try to impose your religious "values" on others. Those "values" are between you and your god of choice, but should not be legislated or forced upon others. This false notion that being intolerant of bigotry is somehow also bigotry is laughable

49) Comment by Being_Stupid - 10/12/2012

The One Baton Rouge Resolution is counterproductive. Instead of just Baton Rouge accepting ALL PEOPLE. It has to spell out that we accept people that are part of group A, B, C, D, & E. Why not just be accepting of ALL PEOPLE and don't try and separate them into sub-groups?

50) Comment by jeffsadow - 10/12/2012

>why do you care who gets married? Very simply, because it avoids inappropriate use of our tax dollars. Married couples get benefits such as spousal deductions, pensions for surviving spouses of government employees, spouses of government get health benefits, etc. Why does government have these policies? Because they are pro-natal. Society needs children to perpetuate itself. And there's one thing that biological research is clear on, that a same-sex couple simply cannot procreate by themselves. So why should the state subsidize these arrangements? Now, not all married couples have children, and not all couples that have children are married, but the social science research is very clear on the fact that children from households that are married make fewer claims in aggregate on state resources. So it is legitimately in the state's interest to encourage marriage by offering these benefits, but only to those where the couple are of different sexes. There is no benefit to the state by doing the same to people of the same sex. Make this conflict about morality if you wish, but it really is about the appropriateness of the use of the people's resources to encourage beneficial behavior, where trying to force that use to apply to situations where there is no chance (nor any opportunity to present a model) of procreation is an exercise in political power in trying to impose a particular set of values that costs more in terms of conflict that the (zero) benefits it brings society.

51) Comment by billynurse - 10/12/2012

DMJ, the liberal left loves to scream about intolerance, though all of you show the most intolerance of other's values; such as Christian values.

52) Comment by bourbon-soda - 10/12/2012

1) An underlying assumption seems to be that every place is supposed to be the same, preferably like San Francisco - diversity demands conformity. 2) How much of this, in Baton Rouge and Montgomery, is a correlate of the disproportionately retrograde attitude, statistically, of the black population? White people can't get credit from the politically correct for anything, from zero population growth to, statistically, comparative acceptance of homosexuality.

53) Comment by DMJ - 10/12/2012

LSUfan71, why do you care who gets married? It's got nothing to do with you. It won't affect you or your marriage. How could it? (this should be good...)

54) Comment by CurvaciousJ - 10/12/2012

@LSUfan71 - read Matthew 7:3 and quit pointing your judgmental finger at people under the guise of "morality". You presume that people who are immoral and filthy and shouldn't be allowed to marry each other, right? I can see why, considering the examples of morality provided by our married heterosexual leaders. Like Senator David Vitter. He's married so he must be a fine moral citizen. Oh snap... he was texting prostitutes from the senate floor. No, I meant the poor widowed Sen. John Edwards. Oh snap, he was cheating on his terminally ill wife and denied the existence of his illegitimate child. No, I meant President Bill Clinton, happily married for years, did not have sexual relations with that woman, and enjoyed a cigar in the evening. Oh snap, there was an immoral and filthy act done by him to an intern in the oval office. Oh well, at least none of these leaders are gay. That would be filthy.

55) Comment by Chucky - 10/12/2012

Once the U.S. Military did away with the don't ask don't tell I thought that civilian life would get better for the gay's. If the government is going to regulate marriage then it should do so in a way that does not penalize others. As a heterosexual male married for over 34 years I have never had an issue with gay's. At our wedding the best man and the maid of honor were( and are) gay. So, What is the problem other than my God don't like that. Loving, honest caring intelligent is all I ask of my friends. Will read and re-read other post as the day goes on.

56) Comment by LSUfan71 - 10/12/2012

@mbw Sure, I did so. Can't you read?

57) Comment by LSUfan71 - 10/12/2012

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59) Comment by MBW - 10/12/2012

LSUfan71 says that "having morals is not hate".....which is true, unless those morals lead you to say hateful things about other people. You can disagree with homosexuality without saying hateful things can't you?

60) Comment by raised.on.robbery - 10/12/2012

@tradewinns: I can't get married, but you can. Don't know if marriage matters to you, but then again, you probably take it for granted because you have always had that right. We have to fight for it.

61) Comment by MBW - 10/12/2012

@LSUfan71--- You said "Having morals is not hate. " Very true. Having morals is living your OWN life in a moral and just way....not lecturing other people about theirs. Talking about morality doesn't make you somehow more "moral". The bible also says love your neighbor as yourself.. And there also the part about removing the plank from your own eye before worrying about the speck in someone else's.

62) Comment by MBW - 10/12/2012

@tradewinns--- You said "we all have the same rights, opportunities"....except that you think you should be allowed to be open and honest about your life. and I should have to lie to you about mine.

63) Comment by MBW - 10/12/2012

@tradewinns--- It's not simply a matter of being quiet about it. I'm gay and I rarely discuss my partner publicly (except with my close friends and acquaintances and with those who ask).....and we don't engage in public displays of affection. The REAL issue is that current laws mean that I couldn't visit him in the hospital if he were incapacitated....it means we pay higher taxes because we can't file jointly (even though we've been together for 8 years). Sorry to inconvenience you with these "special" requests.

64) Comment by Mygulfbleedsforu - 10/12/2012

Not discernible? This is America. Why does one person have to live his/her life "non-discernibly" in order to keep his job, while another does not? That causes closeting, and it is wrong, in a country that prides itself on freedom. You cannot terminate me just because I am a woman. You should not be able to terminate my neighbor just because he is gay.

65) Comment by LSUfan71 - 10/12/2012

@mbw And marriage is between one man and one woman. Next article...

66) Comment by LSUfan71 - 10/12/2012

@MBW get married and you can file a joint return, there is not reason you can't.

67) Comment by LSUfan71 - 10/12/2012

There is simply no reason for laws that distinguish between citizenz' sex acts.

68) Comment by MBW - 10/12/2012

@TommyRucker- Still waiting....what are the "special advantages" that you say we are seeking?

69) Comment by LSUfan71 - 10/12/2012

@DMJ You obviously don't know hate or bigotry. Having morals is not hate. What you do know, obviously, is filth and immorality.

70) Comment by LSUfan71 - 10/12/2012

Well, since public sex is illegal then it follows that laws protecting "gay rights" aren't necessary. Laws affecting what you do in the bedroom don't exist or are not being enforced anylonger.

71) Comment by DMJ - 10/12/2012

This is embarrassing. We can do better than this, can we not? But then again, we live in a city where some people are not ashamed of their bigotry; in fact, they're proud of it. They were taught to be haters by their parents, by their church and by their schools. Very sad.

72) Comment by tradewinns - 10/12/2012

total baloney. being gay is not descernable unless you are making it an issue. we all have the same rights, opportunities, etc. perhaps you want more to fit your individual life. i do also. i'm tired of driving an old truck when i see rich people driving fancy cars. perhaps the city of baton rouge could provide me the vehicle i believe i deserve. marriage is a state of mind as well as a legal intanglement. there are documents you can complete which gives your significant other all the powers and priviliges (except perhaps a retirement stipend) a family member has. the homosexual community makes an issue of their sexuality not society.

73) Comment by TommyRucker - 10/12/2012

This is all part of the HUMAN effort to re-define the TRUTH. The truth according to humans. We see a lot of this re-defing in the world of political correctness where all sort of terms are being re-defined and new terms being promoted. Reality is what we think it is according to the political correct people. We used to conform out minds to reality, today we at 'attempting' to conform reality to our minds (per political correctness). Do we believe there is only ONE real truth or do we think truth can be determined by each human generation as they see fit???

74) Comment by MBW - 10/12/2012

@TommyRucker- What "special advantages" are you referring to? Special advantages like being able to visit a loved one in the hospital? Being able to file a joint tax return?

75) Comment by raised.on.robbery - 10/12/2012

BoiledCrabs...when is the last time you witnessed gay people (or any people) having sex in public? I have been to gay bars more times than I can count...and I also happen to be gay...but have NEVER seen that take place.

76) Comment by TommyRucker - 10/12/2012

This is a study done by gays so what do you expect. There is a big difference between 'being friendly' and 'wanting to be treated as special' and being given advantages because one is gay or transexual or whatever. The gay political force is increasing in this country and the goal today is go go beyond equal/fair and get victim status solidified so advantages and special treatment will be forthcoming under LAW. Any disagreement with the gay life style is now 'officially' labeled as hate as this is how powerful a force the gay political movement has become. We have moved from tolerance, to acceptance, to celebration and are rapidly moving into the next step-special status with legally granted advantages over non-gays.

77) Comment by raised.on.robbery - 10/12/2012

All of you who are so dismissive of this would feel differently if you were gay or trans. But since you can't imagine that being a remote possibility (when it is), you won't be rational about this. Anyway, we have come a long way, but we have a long way to go. I wonder why Holden decline an interview? This is an issue he has worked for-- it's not like he needs to be ashamed that he has ignored it all these years.

78) Comment by BoiledCrabs - 10/12/2012

Mygulfbleedsforu, I think you will find that most people don't care what your sexual preferences are as long as you don't try to force us to listen about them. I was simply pointing out that in some instances gays have hurt themselves by resorting to things like drilling holes in walls and having sex in public.

79) Comment by gary - 10/12/2012

I admire Allison Gary - she took a lot of heat for introducing the resolution along with pre tea party fav Mike Walker - once folks started shaking a bible at Walker - he pulled the ole crawfish move. Allison didn't back down. Kip will have an uphill battle with the present council on this subject - I wish he could get just a resolution passed .

80) Comment by CountryBoysCanSurvive - 10/12/2012

So?

81) Comment by 8point6 - 10/12/2012

I, being of Cajun descent, have been called a name which refers to the backside of a raccoon on occasion! This hurts my feeling immensely!

82) Comment by Mygulfbleedsforu - 10/12/2012

In response to Ducklove's post, I think a lot more was wrong with America in the past unless you were a white Christian male of British ancestry. If you were a WCMBA then you would think things were just peachy keen back in the day and would be wondering why things are going so wrong in America now. To first walk a mile in others' moccasins is very sound advice. In response to BoiledCrabs, your tacky post points out an atmosphere of NON-acceptance, of closeting. I do believe the tide is turning toward acceptance, even in Baton Rouge, and the rest of you will be nothing more than laughable, crotchety old dinosaurs.

83) Comment by BoiledCrabs - 10/12/2012

So they are unhappy because the holes between the stalls in the men's rooms at LSU were sealed up. Get over it.

84) Comment by lovemykids - 10/12/2012

Duckyluve, I'm gay and have a family. I do worry about the USA as a whole. I also worry about the discrimination my family faces because it is headed by two men. My husband and I do not want special treatment. We just want to be treated fairly.

85) Comment by MissCotillion - 10/12/2012

If it makes the LGBT community feel better, this city is not very friendly to me, Miss Cotillion, either. A working, tax-paying, middle-aged ordinary white woman-I am taken for granted after all my taxes are paid. I pay for private police protection through my homeowner's association mandatory dues, and I have an alarm in case my house catches fire. This city sees me only as one to take from.

86) Comment by Duckyluve - 10/12/2012

This is what's wrong with America today. All these special interest groups worried about their little group instead of everyone worried about the country and all groups. This is no different than the naacp always wanting black's to be treated equal and then asking for special treatment. Ya can't have it both ways.

87) Comment by tball - 10/12/2012

“The mayor and other folks went to Nashville, Austin and Portland to see what those cities are doing that we’re not. Just another waste of taxpayers dollars!!!