La. IDs not in line with U.S.

Associated Press file photo -- Louisiana residents will have to use passports rather than their driver's licenses as personal identification to board airliners after Jan. 15, according to the federal Real ID Act of 2005. State officials, meanwhile, are trying to get enforcement of the law postponed. Show caption
Associated Press file photo -- Louisiana residents will have to use passports rather than their driver's licenses as personal identification to board airliners after Jan. 15, according to the federal Real ID Act of 2005. State officials, meanwhile, are trying to get enforcement of the law postponed.

Though officials are hopeful the new law will be postponed, Louisiana travelers might need their passports to board airplanes bound for other parts of the U.S. starting Jan. 15.

That’s because the state has refused to bring its driver’s licenses into compliance with federal law.

Stephen F. Campbell, commissioner of the Louisiana Office of Motor Vehicles, said the office will meet most of new federal standards by October. But a law passed by legislators in 2008 precludes Louisiana from including a symbol that shows the state’s official identification complies with the federal Real ID Act of 2005.

Campbell said he is optimistic that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security will make an exception, or postpone executing the federal law.

“We have drafted a letter to Homeland Security highlighting what we have done in Louisiana to date and what we plan to do; and then telling them, ‘Oh by the way, we do have this legislative prohibition’,” Campbell said.

Homeland Security’s Transportation Security Administration can decide how to handle airline passengers if Louisiana’s official identification is deemed unacceptable and no extension is granted. Passports are acceptable, but TSA has other options, if the agency chooses, such as screening passengers without proper identification more thoroughly, he said.

“I can’t tell you that you’re going to have to have a passport to fly on Jan. 15,” Campbell said. “But according to the Real ID Act, that’s what it says. But Homeland Security hasn’t come out and said that’s what’s going to happen.”

Becky Prejean, of Dreams Come True of Louisiana, said the uncertainty worries her. The foundation organized 57 trips last year, mostly to Disney World in Orlando, Fla., for children who have serious illnesses.

“I guess we can pay for passports, but that takes time and will take money away from the expenses we give families,” Prejean said. “And time is something a lot of these children don’t have much of.”

The Real ID Act of 2005, enacted as part of the 9/11 Commission recommendations, set standards for state-issued driver’s licenses and other official identification documents that would make it easier for law enforcement to verify the identity of the holder. The act requires identification cards to include specific security features and document support. It also stipulates protocols for issuing the identification. The law forbids federal authorities from accepting noncompliant identification from people seeking access to planes, federal facilities and nuclear power plants.

Implementation of the Real ID Act has been delayed repeatedly over the years. About two dozen states initially passed legislation refusing to comply.

Now only Louisiana, Montana, Washington State, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Arizona and Alaska still have state laws prohibiting compliance, according to Coalition for a Secure Driver’s License, a Washington, D.C.-based advocacy group. At the end of July, 20 states, including Alabama and Florida, had substantially complied with the law. The rest were almost there, the group reports.

“As it stands right now, we don’t comply and passports would be required,” said Jim Caldwell, Air Service Development & Marketing Manager at Baton Rouge Metropolitan Airport, which handled 63,895 passengers during the month of February.

Caldwell said airport authorities are looking at the possibilities for how to handle the backup should TSA choose intensive screening, such as extending lines across the building’s foot bridge towards the parking lot, he said.

At the much larger Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport in Kenner, which reported handling 325,156 domestic passengers in January and 336,406 in February, spokeswoman Michelle Wilcut referred all questions to TSA and abruptly hung up the phone.

TSA officials passed all queries on Real ID to Homeland Security, which would not discuss the matter for attribution.

When asked if plans were afoot to postpone, a Homeland Security media spokeswoman, who demanded that her name not be used, referred to a previous agency statement that “strongly encourages states to submit information certifying their progress.”

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano testified in February before the U.S. House Judiciary committee that she would not further extend the deadline. Her assistant secretary for policy, David Heyman, repeated her statements in later congressional visits.

Campbell, who heads Louisiana’s Office of Motor Vehicles, said the state should comply with nearly all the requirements by October from routine advances the agency undertakes as part of its ongoing improvement.

Louisiana lacks a system that numbers blank card stock on which the driver’s licenses are printed. The state keeps up with the paper, but doesn’t number it, he said.

Also, the office is putting into place a “front end” system, in which the person seeking a driver’s license delivers the documents and gets his photograph taken immediately upon entering a motor vehicle office, Campbell said.

The documents would be scanned and checked against national databases while the person waits his turn for a clerk. If the documents are found to be fraudulent, the person would be immediately arrested, he said.

But even once those improvements are made, Louisiana’s identification still might not be acceptable because state law forbids compliance with Real ID, Campbell said.

“Since we already comply with 37 of 39, why don’t we just go ahead and become a Real ID state? That’s the question,” said Brett F. Geymann, R-Lake Charles, who co-sponsored Louisiana’s legislation. “We don’t know where they go from there. Do they come back three years from now and say, ‘Well, now we’re going to make you implement this? And now we’re going to make you implement that?’ ”


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1) Comment by phil - 26/11/2012

Well, I fear I might see a day when Homeland Security and the federal government are knocking on everyone's door and searching their homes and doing searches of citizens on every street corner. First we possibly cannot fly out of the state, and then who knows what the next restrictions will be that are put into place and enforced? Even on a local level there are discussions of the "code police" going around to find code violations - and guess who will control the codes? One day you might wake up to find that ALL of your rights and freedoms are gone in the name of homeland security, etc. How did the SS get started in Germany?

2) Comment by Chucky - 26/11/2012

Why is Obama not a laughing fool for not wanting this ? This is one of the bi-partisan issues that crosses the aisle, there are many far leftest hating 'Real ID' as well as ultra conservative’s.

3) Comment by Preppy6917 - 26/11/2012

markedwardmarchiafava: Shouldn't you be stocking up on tinfoil?

4) Comment by HerbF - 26/11/2012

The legislature should repeal that law at the first opportunity. It was really poor thinking to pass it in the first place. But, we tried to pass creationism, so maybe this is just what we should expect for this state.

5) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 26/11/2012

Knowing TSA is awaiting them, why would anyone still be flying?

6) Comment by DocRocks - 26/11/2012

TSA in Colorado does not recognise how LA renews our DL's. They do not recognise the sticker on the back and view the license as "expired" according to the date on the front. I have had to use my passport to fly within CONUS because of this.

7) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 26/11/2012

As a much younger man, I often wondered how our once-great Republic became a police state. After reading the posts below, let's just say The Great Mystery has been solved.

8) Comment by zealer99 - 26/11/2012

I have a passport, a TWIC, (Transportation Worker Identification Credential, issued by the National Transportation Security Agency), and a Louisiana Driver's License. It ain't big deal if you plan ahead and if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch. I note that Louisiana did rake the money to upgrade the photos on driver's licenses to facial recognition quality, to show where their priorities are.

9) Comment by twinkie1cat - 26/11/2012

Another case of Louisiana stupidity! This is right up there with the efforts at secession because selfish conservatives don't want people to have health insurance. I know how this thing got started. For years the religious fundamentalists called Endtimers who think that Real ID is the sign of the Anti-Christ have been preaching against it. This has been going on since no later than 2004. Of course the far right hate preachers have played on this as a fund raiser. We do not need to worry about national identification in terms of the Second Coming unless people are pressured to get an implant like many put in their pets now. With a Republican run government, this fear mongering got out of of hand and the legislature passed a law that, once again, makes Louisiana a laughingstock. Number one on the agenda this year needs to be getting rid of that and any other law that says that we cannot obey federal law. A Drivers license costs about $20, more in New Orleans, I startlingly found out a few years ago. A passport, when my friend got one in Georgia was about $100. It may have gone up. If you are not planning a trip outside of America, why do you need such an expensive piece of identification? Here it goes again, posturing conservatives trying to make America "MANY NATIONS UNDER GOD, with liberty and justice only for the wealthy. Next thing we know we will have to have a passport to vote and POP, the Republicans have their highly desired and aggressively sought after before the election, disenfranchisement of most people who would vote for Democrats-----Jindal's dictatorship spreading nationwide.

10) Comment by Preppy6917 - 25/11/2012

BTW, seeing as how the legislature specifically passed a prohibition on compliance, the term "rogue" is especially apt.

11) Comment by Preppy6917 - 25/11/2012

Give me a break, Chucky. I fly at a minimum every two weeks and have observed the xenopohobia firsthand on numerous occasions. It's always the guy in the American flag button down shirt that's the most upset about the "indignities of TSA" and is so quick to point out that he "doesn't look like a terrorist" (I should note that, with my fair skin and dirty-blond hair, *I* resemble a terrorist: Timothy McVeigh). And what's wrong with the term "rogue"? It was championed by McCain/Palin as an admirable trait, and aptly describes how these states' leaders are behaving. By opting out of being compliant with Real ID, these states are opting out of having their official identifications being acceptable on the Federal level. States have had SEVEN YEARS to become compliant, but are now pissing and moaning about being disenfranchised?

12) Comment by Chucky - 25/11/2012

xenophobic perception,paranoid states' right, hypocrisy and inconsistent thinking, federalist conspiracy mongers! HRoark. And, have every right to demand, go rogue, be angry Preppy6917 –You guys sure know your way around a keyboard, There are some good pro's for a national ID card and I could list them but instead of 'trigger words', why don't you try.

13) Comment by Ivy - 25/11/2012

@HRoark: btw, it wasn't a "xenophobe" in state office when this stuff went down, so it wasn't a case of flip-flopping.

14) Comment by Ivy - 25/11/2012

What security features could be better than having every state come up with their own??? Why make it easier for a terrorist to travel ANYWHERE in the US as long as they have the universal ID? @HRoark: isn't it nice to see we can all get along when it suits us? LOL

15) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 25/11/2012

You people need not fear any foreign takeover of this country destroying your inalienable rights. You're doing a first class job all on your own.

16) Comment by ultimateliberal - 25/11/2012

Regardless of noncompliance by several states, I'd like to know why a passport is so expensive.......... and it does me no good unless I can afford to travel somewhere!

17) Comment by Preppy6917 - 25/11/2012

Seeing as how the FAA and TSA are federal agencies, they have every right to demand a minimum threshold to certify acceptable identification. If you're angry, be angry at the state leaders who decided to "go rogue" in deciding that they simply wouldn't bring the Louisiana state identifications up to par.

18) Comment by HRoark - 25/11/2012

So, Real ID was an offshoot of 9/11 promoted to address the xenophobic perception that evil doers are infiltrating the country. And now that it's being implemented, xenophobic and paranoid states' rights advocates are the very ones who claim they should be exempt. Another example of the hypocrisy and inconsistent thinking of the anti federalist conspiracy mongers! Just check your passport expiration dates and quit complaining.

19) Comment by TommyRucker - 25/11/2012

The feds are real good at picking out which laws they are going to enforce and which ones they won't (just look at the pot laws in Colorado and Washington), so this shouldn't be much of a problem unless the feds want to make it a big deal. The feds turn their heads while pot becomes legal in Washington and Colorado and they are enforcing this law.

20) Comment by POGO - 25/11/2012

But wait,,,,, aren't we proving ourselves innocent to utilize these services. Wasn't the basic concept " Innocent until proven guilty". Did I miss something, is this "1984"?????? We will lose this country in "INCHES" !!

21) Comment by hemogoblin - 25/11/2012

Oo ooo ooo! Can I get my passport stamped?

22) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 25/11/2012

Words of a true statist, Herb. It's a freedom thing, you wouldn't understand.

23) Comment by HerbF - 25/11/2012

Why did the legislature prevent placing the symbol on the license? This much trouble for nothing more than the placement of a symbol. Please tell me that there is a good reason for this.

24) Comment by Chucky - 25/11/2012

Typical backward, Barack Obam and Ron Paul flatly opposed it, Arkansas, Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, and Washington have joined Maine and Utah in passing legislation opposing Real ID

25) Comment by PLac - 25/11/2012

LOOK! I'm waiting to see if the Caribbean or Orleans population of this state will ever invoke the VooDoo against our current leadership; that these might seek or at least weigh voter approval from now forward.

26) Comment by crabby - 25/11/2012

What's that old joke about needing a passport to visit Louisiana? Also, @ Duckluv . . . are you badmouthing our armed forces?

27) Comment by Warp7 - 25/11/2012

Typical of the backward red state of Louisiana.

28) Comment by Chucky - 25/11/2012

Blah Blah- A national identity card (“Real ID”) is not a matter of State rights but of American citizens right. You can not go on federal property without one , can not fly out of the country with out one. Soon without a Real ID Card you will not be able to be hired by most employers, Sooner or later there will be very few types of public transportation that you could use without having a national ID card, not be able to vote with out one. What if you lost your card? No problem, we will just microchip you now and at the birth of every child in the name of security.

29) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 25/11/2012

Blah, blah, blah. Don't respect the rights of the citizen or of the states which created the federal government. It's well past the time to dissolve the federal government.

30) Comment by MBW - 25/11/2012

Blah Blah. State's rights blah blah...don't make us do something that makes sense!

31) Comment by Duckyluve - 25/11/2012

What a joke. Show me 1 program set up or run by the federal government that works? They may as well pass a law requiring a number be printing on our arms

32) Comment by Chucky - 25/11/2012

Bighug -Mr. T - Before you criticize you should relies "The ACLU of Louisiana commends both Governor Jindal and the legislature for standing up to the Bush Administration in a nationwide movement against Real ID," Some times even those you dislike get it right.

33) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 25/11/2012

Land of the free? LOL, this should be proof positive it no longer is.

34) Comment by Chucky - 25/11/2012

Papers ? you have your papers ? No travel with out papers.

35) Comment by Bighug - 25/11/2012

Why do we keep electing idiots to run this state? I've got my passport ready.

36) Comment by Mr. T - 25/11/2012

Instead of addressing issues like this that really matter, our governor and our idiotic legislature have been fiddling while Rome burns.