BREC evaluates golf courses after deficits, play drop-off

Faced with consistent seven-figure deficits in its golf operations, East Baton Rouge Parish Recreation and Park Commission officials have launched a comprehensive review of the parish’s seven publicly funded golf courses, BREC Superintendent Carolyn McKnight said.

The review could lead to the closure or “repurposing” of one or more of the facilities, she said last week.

“Nothing is off the table,” McKnight said. “I don’t intend to start closing anything until I get a good full analysis.”

Some courses could be converted for other uses, she said.

“I would like for us to think of how we could creatively reuse a course,” she said. “We could use it for a golf training facility.”

Since 2007, BREC’s golf operations have operated at a deficit of at least $1 million, including deficits of $1.2 million in 2011 and $1.4 million in 2010.

The 2012 budget projects an $800,000 deficit for this year.

A drop in play also has contributed to the deficits: In 2011, there were 129,230 rounds played on BREC golf courses, down from a high of 169,781 in 2006, according to information from BREC.

The downward movement reflects a nationwide trend, said Rich Richeson, a player development manager for PGA of America. Richeson works with a PGA initiative called Golf 2.0, which helps golf course operators generate more customers.

Nationally, “we have gone from 31 million to 26 million golfers,” he said. “More people are leaving the game each year than are coming into it.”

The game “overgrew” in the 1980s and 1990s, leading to a glut of courses, Richeson said. Since that time, there have not been enough golfers to support the courses.

In Baton Rouge, closures of three courses — Briarwood, Shenandoah and Fairwood — were emblematic of the industry’s slide, said Ken Caldwell, BREC’s director of golf.

McKnight said she asked Richeson to tour the BREC courses to help them avoid a similar fate.

“I see a lot of opportunity,” Richeson said of the BREC courses. “That’s so often what we find in these governmental agencies, that they don’t market into their community.”

BREC must work to break down the view of golf as an “elite sport,” he said.

Attracting women and younger players to the game is one key way to bring in new players, Richeson said.

BREC’s efforts would be targeted at those groups, McKnight said.

“Women like to know that they are included in what’s going on,” she said. “When they go into the pro shop, do we have women’s apparel stuck in the corner or is it out in the center?”

BREC has had active programs to reach out to female golfers since 2004, Caldwell said, including clinics and tournaments.

“The industry, in general, needs to do a better job of making the game more of a social event for ladies,” he said. “This is what we will focus on.”

Teaching kids to play and get excited about golf would be another focus, McKnight said.

She said officials were also trying to figure out ways to make golf more affordable and less time-consuming, two of the most frequently cited barriers to people taking up the game.

Some options include instituting nine-hole rates for players who don’t have time for a full 18 holes, McKnight said.

“Why not a three-hole rate, if we could manage it?” she said. “Or a six-hole rate?”

McKnight said the BREC courses raised greens fees in January 2010, and she does not want to do so again.

McKnight also said BREC would work with the city-parish to change ordinances that prohibit BREC from serving beer and wine at its courses.

“I hear from golfers every day about that,” she said.

McKnight refused to put a timeline on the review, but she expects to receive a written report from Richeson “within the next couple of weeks.”

Once the report is in, decisions could be made by the end of the year, she said.

Four BREC golf courses — Beaver Creek, Webb Park, City Park and Santa Maria — operated at a surplus through August, according to BREC financial documents.

Howell Park, Clark Park and Woody Dumas have lost money so far in 2012, the documents show.

Dumas has lost the most: $153,704 through Aug. 31.

McKnight could not say how many extra rounds it would take to help the courses break even.

“I am not sure, maybe 35, maybe 30, at others maybe 45,” she said, speaking of thousands of rounds.

In 2011, Santa Maria had the highest number of rounds played, with 31,084. In 2010, Webb had the most, with 32,895 rounds played.

Dave Raby, 63, who plays regularly at BREC courses, said he wasn’t worried about changes, just as long BREC does not raise greens fees.

“They already raised it,” he said, referring to the 2010 increase.

Raby has been playing golf at BREC courses for 35 years, he said, and plays regularly with a group called Brother Love, which is made up of about 50 men who play socially and competitively.

“They just need to upgrade Howell Park a little bit” by improving the conditions, he said.

The review of golf course operations comes at a time when BREC is looking to trim costs and increase revenue.

Earlier this year, BREC’s governing commission ended the car allowance for top BREC executives, opting instead for a mileage reimbursement, in order to save money.

Also, the commission refused to roll forward the park system’s 14.463-mill property tax, and that will cost the system an estimated $1.488 million in 2013, McKnight has said.


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Comments (28)


1) Comment by Chucky - 02/10/2012

@terrysh- Do you have any idea how many golfers play in a year at BREC golf courses ? Good letter, but do we need seven of them? I guess some tax money also goes to LSU golf course and that is open to the public is it not ? My Dad played at City Park Golf and enjoyed it. I remember that the family would all go swimming at the pool at get ice cream cones in the club house, but that was before the earthquake in Alaska cracked the pools base and had to be closed. City Park Golf is a unique course that used the natural lay of the land when made.

2) Comment by terrysh - 02/10/2012

I played on City Park Golf Course this morning with some friends. We looked around at all the folks playing and paying for golf and felt good. It was a beautiful morning to play golf!! I am an EBR resident and property owner, I pay my property taxes to support these facilities. However, I also paid a green and cart fee to play golf. We also looked over and saw folks play croquet without costing them a cent. We saw folks over at the dog park with their pets playing and having fun without paying. We saw the fountain behind the City Park Pro Shop that cost over a hundred thousand dollars to install and untold thousands to keep it working and saw no one using it. Do the ball fields and soccer fields run by BREC turn a profit? Do the gyms and playgrounds run by BREC turn a profit? Do the tennis courts run by BREC turn a profit? Why is golf the only activity at BREC facilities that everyone wants to cut when it probably the only activity in BREC that even comes close to generating the revenue needed to run those facilities. With a few minor changes to golf fee structure BREC golf would be a money maker for BREC. Some cities and counties charge non-residents a higher green fee!! Expand the First Tee program to other courses. Well that's enough for me today.

3) Comment by Chucky - 02/10/2012

@DMJ- That's a great idea. even better than a downtown park. I might pick one of the other six golf courses, but good. A large area like a golf course could have multiple use. When the fair is not playing you could have Renaissance, arts, food market, posters can come up with other events that require large land use. i do not think any park we have now has as much area as a golf course.

4) Comment by DMJ - 02/10/2012

I guess people are finally starting to realize that golf is boring, frustrating and not fun. It's the only game that's more fun to watch on TV than actually play. I think Rodney Dangerfield said it best, "Cemetaries and golf courses- biggest waste of prime real estate." Turn City Park into just that...a city park. BR is missing a central fair ground site.

5) Comment by ShotgunPeteLSU - 02/10/2012

im not saying that brec should have those golf courses or that they don't waste money, but since when does every government service/function have to pay for itself? if it paid for itself then why would we need the government? hey lets see what kind of profits the little league baseball fields make???

6) Comment by 8point6 - 01/10/2012

Here's a suggestion. Convert parts of the golf courses into public swimming pools in the summer. Make other parts free "day care" centers for the poor, while the parent/parents visit the boats.

7) Comment by BoiledCrabs - 01/10/2012

With Baton Rouge's crime rate maybe BREC would do better to sell burial plots on some of that land.

8) Comment by Chucky - 01/10/2012

@bourbon-soda – Oh no, you may interpret it that way but I assure you there are plenty of old things I believer should be done away with, old laws, old law makers, some old buildings, etc. I just think that the City Golf Course is unique and historic. Do away with the other six znd as I said turn them into community gardens. Do not play golf so I do not have a dog that hunts those woods either.

9) Comment by bourbon-soda - 01/10/2012

@Chucky - I don't get it. Maybe you are kidding. If it should stay the way it is because that's the way it was in the early '20s, wouldn't it be even better to do away with it and make things like they were in 1910? I have no skin in this, but why not do away with indoor plumbing? Walking to and from outdoor facilities and getting buckets of water from wells would give most people some much-needed exercise.

10) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 01/10/2012

A quick read of both the federal constitution and the original Louisiana constitution of 1812 confirm neither document provided for tax-funded recreational areas. This is just another plank of the communist manifesto which came along later, thanks to intentionally-ignorant Amerikans.

11) Comment by Chucky - 01/10/2012

City Park Golf Course is the second oldest municipal golf course in the state and if for no other reason should not be turned into a food garden. This course was voted on in the early 1920's.

12) Comment by bradartigue - 01/10/2012

Yes, it's kind of sad to read Mark's comments in this and other posts. Citing the founding fathers, many of whom presided ever the establishment of the first recreational spaces in the country. 4th grade history, Mark. You can event borrow books from the (tax payer funded, possibly recreational) library system. As a conservative I can rule affirmatively that Mark is a nutjob.

13) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 01/10/2012

Based on what passes these days for conventional wisdom, as long as the majority decides on something, it is "law." Hmmm, sounds more like a democracy, something the founders worked hard to prevent.

14) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 01/10/2012

" ...for you and your kind " hmmm wonder what mark means by that? /// bradartigue, you might as well take mark with a grain (or a ton) of salt. He is just a self-proclaimed anarchist who shows up on these boards just throw his Molotov cocktails. He is quite ignorant even though he proclaims he alone can correctly interpret all constitutions and laws. It’s quite sad actually. I feel sorry for his family (especially if he has brainwashed them with his toxic views)

15) Comment by bradartigue - 01/10/2012

Mark, that's a "G" in there, not a "Q". Reading and comprehension being on the same par as your knowledge of history, then? I can't buy the logic because I'm not so polarized to one side or the other as to think that government is going to stop providing these services to the population. And, in our city, it actually is the duty of government to provide these services, we have laws and budgets that established them and continue to operate them. This has nothing to do with socialism inasmuch (sorry, confusing word choice there for you) as a road or sidewalk does. People, at some point in time, voted this stuff in or voted for the people who did. If you want to rid yourself of the burden of BREC, vote against it, or vote against people who do.

16) Comment by Chucky - 01/10/2012

Do not care how man rounds are played but how many people are playing. Same people day in and day out can make a lot of rounds. A Goofy Golf might go over big. Turn all seven into gardens for the poor and feed all the hungry people in BR I keep reading about. Just to long for tax payers to have been loosing millions and the yeas before 2007 maybe only $950,999.00.

17) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 01/10/2012

@Bradartique, the reason you "can't buy" that logic is because it IS logic. Again, it is not the duty of government to provide recreational facilities for you and your kind at the expense of your neighbor. But, seeing how socialism has been the norm lately, I can see why you're so confused.

18) Comment by bradartigue - 01/10/2012

I love that the picture they have is of five golfers playing a round. Why not seven? Maintenance and lax attitude towards rules probably contributes somewhat to the lack of play. Privatize all of them. They get plenty of play to turn a profit, like most things run by a government you have to consider the operator may be untalented in operations. The logic that the city shouldn't provide the courses I can't buy. We provide tennis courts, biking and running tracks, art galleries, baseball fields, and water parks that are all used by a gross minority of residents, but when tallied together are wonderful services. At least golf courses force the city to somewhat maintain them - imagine how blighted a large, open park would be. I can see the unmaintained grounds, overfull trash cans, garbage on the ground - from our wonderful citizens - and the parks looking like the LSU lakes in 1990.

19) Comment by phil - 01/10/2012

I personally stated here long ago that BREC has way too many golf courses to maintain and only a small percent of the people in BR actually use them. Besides it appears to me that they have cornered the market on golf and have driven private golf courses out of the market. This is probably being repeated with the bike/walking paths along the creeks - a lot of money spent on something that hardly anyone will use. Perhaps BREC needs to hire me to run BREC. I work cheap.

20) Comment by Art Vandelay - 01/10/2012

Can i get some Grey Poupon with that tax?

21) Comment by watchdogg - 01/10/2012

Brec"s green fees are a little high, and should'nt be raised anymore. I remember back a few years ago when there were too many golfers on the course, and play was very slow ( which is probably what turned people off from golf ) Maybe BREC shuld provide more specials to get more people interested again........

22) Comment by LawyerDan65 - 01/10/2012

"Also, the commission refused to roll forward the park system’s 14.463-mill property tax, and that will cost the system an estimated $1.488 million in 2013, McKnight has said." When the cost of providing a service increases it is insane to think that you can provide that same service for the same amount of money. Alternatively, the fees at BREC courses could be doubled and would still be less than at any private club in the area. I learned to play golf on BREC courses and think that golf is one of the best things BREC does with my tax dollars.

23) Comment by bourbon-soda - 01/10/2012

Government subsidized golf: midnight basketball for the petit bourgeoisie. Introducing young kids to the game is futile. There will never be enough courses for the masses to play.

24) Comment by caucajun - 01/10/2012

Looks like those courses would be a great place for kids to ride their four wheelers and dirt bikes.

25) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 01/10/2012

One legitimate function of government is to keep crackpots like mark off the streets. Unfortunately, we, the people, aren't funding that well enough because we are using those funds to promote the general welfare with recreational facilities.

26) Comment by markedwardmarchiafava - 01/10/2012

Since providing golf courses is not a legitimate function of government, sell the properties in the open market.

27) Comment by tball - 01/10/2012

You have to introduce young kids to the game. I lived in Alameda, Calif. and have visted there frequently over the past 40 years. The city owns a 45 hole course, the only one in the city. If you are still in grades 1 thru 12, it cost $1 to play.

28) Comment by Cousin Dave - 01/10/2012

BREC raised their green fees several times in the last few years, and priced a lot of people out of the market. Offering a three-hole rate is not going to bring anyone back. It will just make them mad.