ULL lesbian, gay studies minor rapped

The president of the conservative Louisiana Family Forum has taken aim at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette’s new lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender studies minor, calling it more advocacy than academic.

The area of study was first offered in the spring and is believed to be the first of its kind in Louisiana. The university offers the coursework as a minor and not as a degree program, which would require approval from the state Board of Regents.

But according to Family Forum President Gene Mills, the coursework is not in line with what a public college should be offering. “It doesn’t reflect Louisiana values,” Mills said.

U.S. Rep. Jeff Landry, R-New Iberia, also waded in this week, urging the university to drop the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender — called LGBT studies — minor for failing to provide an academic benefit to students or a worthwhile financial return to taxpayers.

From the university’s perspective, a dean says, the minor is in high demand and could prove useful to graduating students entering a broad range of occupations.

The Family Forum was one of the first groups to speak out against the LGBT studies minor when it urged ULL to cancel the minor in a newsletter sent out this week. The group characterizes itself as a voice for traditional families. It has lobbied in favor of pro-life causes and against anti-bullying legislation that included protections for gay students and the repeal of a law that some say allows the teaching of creationism in classrooms.

Mills said a description of the LGBT minor led him to believe the university was trying to further an agenda rather than educate students.

“They need to explain how it meets academic guidelines,” Mills said. “Especially because you have taxpayers paying for it.”

After noticing that the web page describing the LGBT minor was down Thursday morning, Mills stopped just short of declaring victory.

He pointed to a passage in a letter university President Joseph Savoie posted online this week offering assurances that the minor did not require special funding.

Mills suggested the combination of the letter and the non-working web page indicated the university was having second thoughts about offering the minor.

“The letter was very politically astute,” Mills said. “The website not working; I’d say there’s plausible deniability involved.”

The university denied the malfunctioning web page had anything to do with second thoughts about offering the program.

In Landry’s criticism of the LGBT minor, the congressman and ULL alum said the school is wasting taxpayer money by offering an area of study not likely to be financially useful to students upon graduation.

“Every time I read the paper, you see people in higher education complaining about budget cuts,” Landry said in an interview. “We should be allocating our time, energy and resources to increasing the earning capacity of our students to become more competitive in the job market.”

ULL President Joseph Savoie argued in his online letter that LGBT-related coursework is an accepted area of study that has been offered at roughly 200 universities nationwide for nearly 50 years.

“Rooted in sociology, studies of human subgroups help prepare students for careers, such as counselors, personnel directors, teachers, social workers, criminal justice professionals, health care providers, managers and those involved in pastoral care,” Savoie wrote. e_SClBA person answering the phone at Savoie’s office on Wednesday referred all questions to the university’s communications staff. Calls to the president’s office went unanswered Thursday morning.

ULL sociology professor DeAnn Kalich, who is described in the Family Forum newsletter as having “spearheaded” the program’s development, declined to talk about the subject at length Thursday and referred questions to the university’s communications department, citing an overwhelming number of interview requests.e_SClBCollege of Liberal Arts Dean Jordan Kellman said the minor grew out of on-campus discussions in 2010. It was approved by the school in the fall of 2011 and includes classes already available at the university, such as cultural anthropology, child and family studies and human sexuality.

“This really was designed in response to student demand,” Kellman said. “We’ve heard talk about the issue, but we really haven’t gotten any backlash here at the office.”


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1) Comment by Chucky - 14/07/2012

Drinking a beer in a LGBT bar will not get you a minor in its study. It is a complex and worthy course of study. As seen by many of the post there is a great misunderstanding of the LGBT community. I imagine that when the military in our country finally allowed gays to come out many a solder went thru such a course.

2) Comment by Elderly Man - 13/07/2012

The Rev. Mr Gene Mills and other agents of the Louisiana Family Forum lack tolerance. The term “value” is a bad word that did not fit in economics and fits even less in morality and ethics or social theory. The notion that a wildly strange religious lobby can define in narrow terms how we live in Louisiana is ludicrous. One might understand that people like Mr. Mills disdain homosexual behaviour but his contempt for his fellows in our state is not a proper ground for what he argues. I am a devout, pious Christian. My favourite pastor in Louisiana is a lesbian. She more fully represents my Christian views that does Mr. Miles/

3) Comment by Elderly Man - 13/07/2012

We need to eliminate the expensive business school programs that teach young men and women how to be greedy and selfish parasites.

4) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 13/07/2012

...or a course in how the religious "right" are totally wrong and are keeping Louisiana (and the rest of the Dirty South) in the dark ages...

5) Comment by phil - 13/07/2012

Perhaps the college course could be entitled "Sexual Promiscuity, Homosexuality, and the Decline of Morality in the USA".

6) Comment by phil - 13/07/2012

Tea Slayer - don't worry about me starting about the AIDS rates in BR because the local news has already done that for me. See Advocate story on March 15, 2012. Perhaps a college course could go into detail about the origins of AIDS and how it started in the homosexual community in the USA and then spread to others. It is all very well documented.

7) Comment by chem - 13/07/2012

As others have stated, it is advantageous to learn about other people/cultures. When that happens, there is less suspicion, bigotry, and hate in the world. I'm not a betting person, but I'm sure that all of the hate mongers on this board consider themselves "christians."

8) Comment by RobertBigelow - 13/07/2012

The Louisiana Family Forum is conservative in name, only. In reality, they are revisionists who view the world through the distortion of their own bubble of self-absorption. The L.F.F.are self- appointed "experts" of all things concerning everyone else, but their real expertise is in meddling with the lives of those who really shouldn't concern them in the first place.

9) Comment by Tea_Slayer - 13/07/2012

warreni, STOP!!. Please do not get phil started on his factless rants about homosexuality and HIV rates

10) Comment by warreni - 13/07/2012

phil, I'm surprised you can hear us all the way back there in 1990. News flash: heterosexuals and hemophiliacs get HIV.

11) Comment by DreamGirl - 13/07/2012

Sandy-What makes you think this is a nonsense program? Is it because it doesn't interest you? I have been doing a little research on this topic this morning because it infuriates me as to why people who have nothing to do with education want to make all of the decisions about education. This is an up and coming minor/major across our nation. To kind of answer your question as to what career this might prepare you for---- "According to San Diego State University , a degree in LGBT Studies will be useful in the fields of medicine, law, and business, but over time, I honestly think it will be seen as a plus in every field. Consider what a banner year this has been: Same-sex marriage was legalized in New York, Don't Ask, Don't Tell was repealed. LGBT-specific jobs, like green jobs, could open the door to a world of professional opportunities that never even existed before." http://thestir.cafemom.com/teen/126926/colleges_now_letting_k ids_major Do your research on budget cuts and see exactly what they are affecting.... Just because there are budget cuts doesn't mean we need to offer only degrees you think are important. I suppose you think Foreign Language, Arts, International Studies, ect. are not important as well. We need to face that times are changing even if we don't like it. But hey, isn't it our generation and the one's before us who obviously sparked the change? If we hadn't we would not be having this discussion.

12) Comment by phil - 13/07/2012

Perhaps a college course that links this topic together with the fact that BR has about the highest rate of AIDS in the nation would actually be a good solution.

13) Comment by Chrilter - 13/07/2012

Sandy.......So are you now the final judge on what subject matters are important in the world? Really? So because you do not think these programs offer value, they should automatically be cut. So we should probably teach ONLY math, biology, and engineering huh? No arts, no culture, nothing that will enrich the lives of everyone else. GEEZ!!....I guess we dont need history, or religion or anything else either. Just so long as we have what YOU, sandy, deems appropriate. And, the programs are underfunded because of people like you who don't understand the value of a well rounded education.

14) Comment by phil - 13/07/2012

DMJ - just to answer your question - Yes, I accidentally went into a gay bar many years ago and ordered a beer before I realized it. I stayed long enough to finish drinking my beer since I had already made the investment. I saw a lot and also learned a lot and didn't need to spend money on a college course to figure out what goes on. Thanks for asking. Also, you seem to presume and guess a lot here.

15) Comment by Sandy - 13/07/2012

Moral argument aside, just what sort of career does a minor in LGBT studies prepare you for? I would eliminate it and a whole bunch of other nonsense programs at our public colleges. Then maybe their budget crunch wouldn't be so bad. And if they are carrying programs like this, I find it hard to believe that the supposedly drastic budget cuts are really hurting them. These types of programs undermine their arguments about being underfunded. I was against the higher ed budget cuts until I read this article. Now I think they have more money than they need.

16) Comment by Being_Stupid - 13/07/2012

@DMJ... You speak ill of gay bars as if people who go to gay bars is a bad thing or a joking matter. I go to gay bars all the time. Does that make me a bad person? Do you think hanging out in gay bars is a joking matter? I am very offended by your gay bar joke. And I think the moderators should censor your comment like they did to the 3 comments I have already posted below. I happen to go to gay bars all the time, not because I am gay, but because they play good dancing music. And it is the only place where parking is not allowed on the dance floor. A lot of decent people go to gay bars. Please do not joke about gay bars. Gay bars are not a joking matter. In fact bar jokes in general are not funny. If more straight people went to gay bars, instead of making jokes about gay bars, gay bars wouldn't be so gay anymore.

17) Comment by stopnthink - 13/07/2012

The dept of culture should also promote the fast growing industry in the state...hollywood movie productions. This is perfect because nothing reflects the common belief system of Louisianians than Hollywood stars and movies. I mean that is why we should continue to support them with our tax dollars as opposed to those random schools like ULL, who do nothing but promote agendas. Hollywood movies would never do that...never.

18) Comment by DMJ - 13/07/2012

Phil, you're speaking from experience, I presume?

19) Comment by stopnthink - 13/07/2012

We should adopt an education motto something along the lines of, "Louisiana A State Proud of Education"...only on matters which provide perceived financial gains and which don't go against our system of beliefs. One of the sponsors could be the state dept of culture, perhaps they could mention the states biggest tourist draw Mardi Gras.

20) Comment by stopnthink - 13/07/2012

"I imagine if you want to learn about this subject you could save a lot of money on education by just going to a local gay bar for a few hours and study the subject there and learn all you really want to know. " I imagine comments like this are why Louisiana commonly is rated 49th or 50th in various education studies.

21) Comment by stopnthink - 13/07/2012

Being stupid...or we can act like it doesn't exist and prepare a workforce of future teachers, businessmen, politicians, doctors, etc...that have no idea how to handle gay clients, communities, and individuals...that is being stupid. the program is a choice, government controlling choice is the communist way of live.

22) Comment by phil - 13/07/2012

I imagine if you want to learn about this subject you could save a lot of money on education by just going to a local gay bar for a few hours and study the subject there and learn all you really want to know.

23) Comment by Being_Stupid - 13/07/2012

The next step, will be to teach grade school and high school children about homosexuality. Perhaps start teaching kids in the first grade, kindergarten, or preschool about homosexuality. We need to promote that homosexuality is a healthy lifestyle in our youth at a very young age. Explain to young kids that being gay is normal and that perhaps they be homosexual too when they grow up to be an adult.

24) Comment by chem - 13/07/2012

Ah, yes. The always narrow-minded, bigoted Gene Mills and his Republican lackeys. Always good to hear their enlightened opinions. I am sure that Mills and Landry are quite ecstatic about the Eternity Christian Academy in Westlake, Louisiana that is teaching that the Loch Ness monster is real so that evolution can be "debunked." And this looney tunes school is getting money through the just-passed voucher system!!

25) Comment by stopnthink - 13/07/2012

students fund their schools more than the state, it is hard to call our universities public anymore. government should not try to restrict the education of students, that is not American, but it is Communist.

26) Comment by Being_Stupid - 13/07/2012

Hopefully these students can study and explain why lesbians are attracted to women that appear like men, and why gays are attracted to men that appear and act like women. Why gays and lesbians are attracted to other gays and lesbians that appear, look, and act like the opposite gender, the gender that they are not supposed to be attracted to.

27) Comment by Chrilter - 13/07/2012

DMJ...also, as I noted earlier, the majority of the university's revenue now comes from STUDENT tuition because little bobby thinks education is not important anymore. Thanks bobby and all your idiotic zombies.....maybe we should just all go back to learning only the bible like they did in the 12th century when the church persecuted scientists as "not conforming to biblical teachings". Seems like we are trying to return to that era. So good luck with that.

28) Comment by gofigger - 13/07/2012

I think we should also have "Beer Blast 101"

29) Comment by Chrilter - 13/07/2012

bourbon-soda....whats the difference between these classes and improv acting, women's and gender studies, african and african american studies, astronomy, religious studies?.....I did not see anyone complaining when these programs were added and yet they also have little "technical" training value which is apparently what you would have us teach kids is nothing more than how to be an electrician, a/c repair guy, engineer. The world needs diversity, and these classes provide students with different points of view which broadens their minds, makes them think, and ultimately produces more well rounded citizens.

30) Comment by DMJ - 13/07/2012

It's pretty obvious that the opposition to this field of study has nothing to do with budgets. It has to do with the culture war.

31) Comment by bourbon-soda - 13/07/2012

Nice to know the budget crisis has abated to the extent that there is money for another yet another thoroughly modern field of study.

32) Comment by RationalOne - 13/07/2012

Gene Mills & his peeps need to go back to making burnt offerings to their god and keep their big noses out of academics.

33) Comment by Being_Stupid - 13/07/2012

After teaching young college adults that being gay is normal, the next step will be to teach grade-school and high-school kids that being gay is normal too. We should teach kids at a very young age, perhaps first grade or kindergarten or even preschool, that being gay is normal. We need to promote homosexuality in our youth, encourage some to go that way. Rewrite "Goldilocks and the 3 Bears" to be "Goldilocks and 2 Gay Bears" and other traditional children's fairy tales to better introduce kids to the concept.

34) Comment by DreamGirl - 13/07/2012

First of all, it is not a degree program. It is a minor. As for people who are commenting against this, educate yourself before making such judgment about a program. We keep saying we want to keep our Louisiana students here and give them a fair playing field against students from other states, so what is wrong with offering some type of diversity? If your child went to Yale and yes Yale does offer this area of study, you would be saluting your child for going to Yale and have no comment on the subject. But we have an innovative University right here in Louisiana and you are choosing to slam them because it doesn't fit the "normal southern mold". Not everyone wants to be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer. Mr. Mills I am not sure who you are, but I can say you have the right to say it goes against the values of Louisiana but your opinion is just the opinion of a group of people and doesn't determine that you are 100% correct! Are your values to oust anyone who does not believe in the same things as you? That is what you are doing.(Called bullying by the way) Aren't we supposed to accept differences of opinion? Just because it is your opinion doesn't make it the right one. If students want to be able to study this, then they should. Educate yourself before being so obstinate because our children are facing a totally different workforce and society than we have experienced. It is important for our students to be well rounded and choose the areas of study they wish to pursue. Mr. Landry your comment... wasting taxpayer money by offering an area of study not likely to be financially useful to students upon graduation. You seriously said that? Do you know how much tax payer money is wasted in our public schools? Are we producing students that are financially useful? You need to focus on that issue because our kids going to college are the ones financially useful and not collecting "FREE" money as adults. Worry about that. Higher education is about making our students the best at who they are and who they are meant to become. I think of all of the Universities in Louisiana it seems UL is the one that is meeting the challenges of students needs today. I commend there President, Faculty , and Staff for putting students needs first. And by the way I have no affiliation with the University but I am an educator and felt it was important for me to comment on such nonsense of one group. You know, that is what is wrong with education all the way around, people trying to make decisions about educating our kids who have not been in the classroom in the last 10 years are have no education experience period.

35) Comment by Being_Stupid - 13/07/2012

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36) Comment by tradewinns - 13/07/2012

what a waste of money! however if the money being spent is private money (their own) they are free to spend it on any legal thing they want. if they have $2, and borrow $1 (anyway connected to any government program) then they should not be wasting someone elses' money. there is zero demand for anything close to this. reminds me of the "art" the taxpayer supported, the cross in a glass of urine. fabulous huh!?

37) Comment by nimby? - 13/07/2012

lot of confusion between love and sex , the two don't always go together . ask most men who've been married a few years ...

38) Comment by DMJ - 13/07/2012

Gee, another Republican who's beholden to the hate group, Louisiana Family Forum. I'm shocked! And don't engage Being Stupid. He's not an actual moron. He's just parodying one. His comments are funny in that context, but not worth responding to.

39) Comment by Being_Stupid - 13/07/2012

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40) Comment by NewsReader - 13/07/2012

LSU offers classes on religion, but I guess that's ok to these opponents. Being_Stupid, living up to your name again, huh? I guess you never considered the value of the course to psychology students and similar fields? It really sounds like judging by some of the utter bias here in the comments, that maybe a course like this should be required in the curriculum in high schools. That way in a few generations' time maybe this state will drag itself out of the dumps with no longer having a population as discriminatory and judgmental as it currently has.

41) Comment by Being_Stupid - 13/07/2012

Degree in Gay Studies is exactly what the workforce is looking for. I am certain the demand for Certified Gay Professionals must be high. The starting salary must be at least $6 a year. That is a six figure salary !!!

42) Comment by Mygulfbleedsforu - 13/07/2012

I would like to challenge Gene Mills and his ilk to take the class first, then decide whether it has value. The Louisiana Family Forum members and supporters might benefit greatly from this course.

43) Comment by Chrilter - 13/07/2012

So, these people will champion tax payer dollars going to fund schools that teach kids religion, but when the subject matter is something they dont believe in, they are going to try to shut it down. The school that Louisiana is about to send voucher money to in Westlake advocates that the Loch Ness monster is real and yet you people are worried about LGBT studies. GET OVER YOURSELVES AND YOUR SELFISH AGENDAS. stop trying to butt into other people's lives and just worry about yourself. Or if you cant do that, at least try to stop being a HYPOCRITE. Not to mention the fact that colleges and universities in this state are now more funded by student tuition than by state dollars so your argument is even more invalid....and Family Forum, dont even get me started....they want to talk about "christian values" and then try to kill a bill that would stop kids from bullying other kids. NICE WORK....I'm sure Christ would have done the same thing.....OH Wait a second, Christ said to love everyone and he hung out with the unwanteds of society. My bad.....they must be following some other Jesus Christ and not the one I read about

44) Comment by lovemykids - 13/07/2012

Colleges and universities are supposed to produce people who are well rounded and critical thinkers that benefit society as a whole. It seems a lot of people forget this and believe higher education is there to produce only closed minded and bigoted sheep.

45) Comment by TheTardis - 13/07/2012

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46) Comment by dday198 - 13/07/2012

i fail to see what educational benefits that most football players are gaining but they're still on scholarships and it's not my call.

47) Comment by ABayouBoy - 13/07/2012

I fail to see any educational benefits of this program.

48) Comment by dday198 - 13/07/2012

they are studying. does studying jack the ripper make someone a killer? these people are a perfect example why churches should pay taxes.

49) Comment by Cousin Dave - 13/07/2012

This program is like hanging a sign out for perverts who are looking for same-sex partners. Maybe ULL ought to relocate this department to Forest Park in Baton Rouge or the French Quarter in New Orleans. That's where a lot of them hang out anyway, and they could study themselves there. These people are sickos and do not reflect Louisiana values. So why should we have to pay for this program.

50) Comment by dday198 - 13/07/2012

Rev. Dale Hoffpauir – Chief Operating Officer Dan Richey – Independent Political Consultant, LFF Action Grass Roots Coordinator Ruth Flores – Executive Assistant Rev. Gene Mills – President of Louisiana Family Forum (LFF) and Louisiana Family Forum Action (LFFA) Rev. Tim Grant – IT and Editorial Manager i'm just wondering how much these people pay themselves for what they do do.

51) Comment by gary - 13/07/2012

Jeff Landry and Gene Mills - now that is a pair! I believe that is a quote from Mae West.