Louding denies Boyd killing

The man rapper Torence “Lil Boosie’’ Hatch allegedly hired to murder Terry Boyd in 2009 testified Monday he lied to Baton Rouge police and an East Baton Rouge Parish grand jury in 2010 when he said Hatch paid him $2,800 to kill Boyd.

Michael “Marlo Mike’’ Louding, 19, of Baton Rouge, also testified at Hatch’s first-degree murder trial that he lied about killing five other people over a 14-month span.

A sometimes cocky Louding — the prosecution’s star witness — said he lied because Baton Rouge police threatened to lock up his mother and stepfather and told him he would die by lethal injection, that Hatch had put out a $25,000 contract on his life and that District Attorney Hillar Moore III “wanted’’ Hatch.

“Did you believe Torence Hatch was trying to kill you?’’ prosecutor Dana Cummings asked Louding, who said he was close to Hatch “like a brother.’’

“No ma’am,’’ replied Louding, who later said he is a “lover,’’ not a killer.

Louding acknowledged he did not tell the anonymous jury Monday what he told the grand jury on June 3, 2010.

“Why didn’t you?’’ Cummings asked.

“I have no idea,’’ he said. “I’m telling the truth today.’’

Louding also testified while being questioned by one of his attorneys, Jason Williams, that Hatch, now 29, and Boyd, 35, had no beef between them.

Cummings, who called Louding as the state’s 12th witness, had cautioned the jury on Saturday that Louding was going to lie when he took the stand because Hatch and his associates had intimidated him.

“This is the state’s star witness,’’ Williams said outside the 19th Judicial District Courthouse after Louding gave his explosive testimony Monday. “That was a surprise. We had no idea what he was going to say when he took the stand.’’

Cummings told jurors over the weekend that Louding, who is charged with five counts of first-degree murder and one count of second-degree murder in a string of killings, signed a contract with prosecutors that called for him to receive a sentence of less than life in prison in exchange for his cooperation.

“It’s (the deal) in limbo,’’ Louding’s attorney, Margaret Lagattuta, said Monday when asked if the deal is dead. “It’s closer to dead than alive.’’

Lagattuta said numerous threats have been made against Louding and his family, and he is scared and nervous.

“I’ve never seen the cockiness,’’ she added. “Maybe he was showing off for Boosie.’’

Louding initially denied involvement in Boyd’s killing in a May 14, 2010, videotaped police statement played for the jury Monday. But in a May 17, 2010, statement also shown to jurors, Louding admitted to being the triggerman in the slaying and said Hatch paid him $2,800 shortly after the killing was confirmed.

Before those statements were played in state District Judge Mike Erwin’s courtroom, Louding took the witness stand with his wrists and ankles shackled and wearing an orange and white striped East Baton Rouge Parish Prison jumpsuit.

Erwin warned Louding that if he committed perjury or lied on the witness stand, he could face a prison term of 5 to 40 years.

Louding testified he was at Hatch’s house the night of Oct. 21, 2009 — the night Boyd was shot in a house on Vermillion Street — with Hatch, Adrian Pittman, Michael “Ghost’’ Judson and others. Louding and Pittman, 38, of Baton Rouge, also are charged with first-degree murder in the killing. Judson is deceased.

“Did anything significant happen that night?’’ Cummings asked Louding as Lagattuta, Moore and Sheriff Sid Gautreaux looked on.

“No ma’am,’’ Louding replied.

“Nothing?’’ the prosecutor inquired further.

“No ma’am,’’ he answered.

“Did you participate in a homicide that night?’’ Cummings asked.

“No ma’am,’’ he stated.

Louding went on to say he did not know Boyd; did not tell Baton Rouge police detectives he killed Boyd; and did not confess to killing local up-and-coming rapper Chris “Nussie” Jackson on Feb. 9, 2009, Marcus Thomas on April 25, 2009, and Charles Matthews and Darryl “Bleek” Milton on April 1, 2010.

Louding, who is charged with first-degree murder in those killings, also is charged with second-degree murder in the killing of Michael Smith on Dec. 18, 2009.

At that point, Cummings described Louding as a hostile witness and asked Erwin for permission to play Louding’s police statements.

While they were played with police Sgt. Chris Johnson on the witness stand, Louding sat in the prisoner area a few feet away from Hatch and his attorneys. A sheriff’s deputy stood between Louding and Hatch.

Johnson testified that Louding was “very detailed’’ and “specific’’ about the Boyd killing.

When Louding returned to the witness stand, he complained that eight hours of his police interrogation were not taped. He said he asked for a lawyer several times.

“Where the other eight hours at?’’ Louding asked Cummings. “Sounds like somebody was trying to hide something.’’

A short time later, Cummings asked Louding about a tattoo on his chest that depicts an AK-47 assault rifle and says, “Yo Boosie, who’s next?’’

“What does my tattoo have to do with what we’re talking about?’’ Louding asked.

At Cummings’ request and with Erwin’s permission, sheriff’s deputies unshackled Louding’s wrists so he could stand in front of the jury and display the tattoo. The prosecutor also showed jurors a photo of the tattoo.

“What does that tattoo mean?’’ she asked.

“I don’t know. It’s just a tattoo,’’ Louding answered.

Cummings had told the jury over the weekend that prosecutors have proof Louding got the tattoo just two weeks after Boyd was slain, and that he told police it was a reference to who was going to be killed next.

“It was way before Terry Boyd,’’ Louding said of the tattoo.

Prosecutors are not seeking the death penalty in Hatch’s case, meaning he would be sentenced to life in prison if convicted as charged.

Louding, who was 17 at the time of Boyd’s death, is charged with first-degree murder in the killing but is not eligible for the death penalty because of his age.

Hatch, who pleaded guilty in November to charges that accused him of conspiring to smuggle drugs and other illegal contraband into Dixon Correctional Institute and the Louisiana State Penitentiary, was sentenced to eight years in prison.


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Comments (34)


1) Comment by CountryBoysCanSurvive - 09/05/2012

Ya'll please quit slandering Uncle Willy

2) Comment by Joe Smith - 09/05/2012

CountryAttorney, again what song has Terry Boyd's name in it???? OR ARE YOU JUST LYING??? THE DA NEEDS YOU TO TURN THAT SONG OVER RIGHT NOW!!!! ESPECIALLY WITH THE WAY THE CASE IS LOOKING RIGHT NOW!!!! WHEN DID WHO'S NEXT BECOME A MURDER CONFESSION??? DOES THE TATTOO SAY "WHO IS NEXT TO BE MURDERED"??? NO!!!!!! So it could mean whatever the people who got them wanted it to mean. Tattoos and nonexistent songs you can't even name or find??? smh

3) Comment by Joe Smith - 09/05/2012

CountryAttorney, what song has Terry Boyd's name in it???? ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO RESORT TO BOLD FACE LIES??? WHAT SONG??? I WANT THE NAME OF THAT SONG NOW. THE DA HASN'T EVEN DISCOVERED IT YET. TATTOOS??? REALLY??? smh You are helping me prove my point when you bring up tattoos. WHAT WAS THIS BAD BLOOD YOU SPEAK OF?????

4) Comment by MissCotillion - 08/05/2012

@ElderlyMan You old gasbag you don't know either of these prosecutors. And the day you stop darkening the doors of St Luke's will be a good day too. @Joe Smith ThugLove....how is that working out for you?

5) Comment by 8point6 - 08/05/2012

FREE lil boosie! FREE lil boosie! Where is al and jessie??

6) Comment by nimby? - 08/05/2012

Al Capone , nice guy , never got his hands dirty .....

7) Comment by CountryAttorney - 08/05/2012

Joe, why would they need Hatch to have a murder weapon? No one is saying that Hatch pulled the trigger. How about that tattoo? Is that circumstantial evidence? What about the lyrics in the "song" that contain the name of the victim and the fact that he is dead, the name of the alleged trigger man, and are spoken by the defendant? Is that not evidence? Just because you don't like that it was allowed into the record does not mean that it is not evidence. Not to mention the fact that there seems to have been some bad blood between the victim and the defendant. That is the definition of circumstantial evidence, my friend. It is too high of a burden to require the state to show physical evidence such as DNA when whether the defendant was even at the scene of the crime is not an issue. That is why the aforementioned statute is on the books. Hatch was indicted for first degree murder because the grand jury felt that there existed probable cause that he paid someone to kill the victim. If there was, as you claim, no evidence at all, the grand jury indictment would have been quashed without question. That is, of course, as long as Hatch's attorneys are competent. I assure you they are.

8) Comment by Joe Smith - 08/05/2012

CountryAttorney, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE!! ALL THEY HAVE ARE UNPROVEN ASSERTIONS AND NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE AT ALL. WHERE IS THE MURDER WEAPON????

9) Comment by CountryAttorney - 08/05/2012

Joe, in regard to the circumstantial evidence, I am telling you what the law is. It is not subject to debate. I think if I were to go away, you'd have to resort to arguing with the walls of your home.

10) Comment by Joe Smith - 08/05/2012

This case went from weak to pathetic. The very 1st witness pretty much ruined the prosecutors case for them. #fail

11) Comment by Joe Smith - 08/05/2012

CountryAttorney, we are talking about murder and the rest of a man's life. Circumstantial evidence just shouldn't cut it. I'm not on the jury but in my opinion you need cold hard fact and some reliable witnesses, not some accused six time killer who told 3 to 4 different versions of the story and the DA just picks the 1 that had Hatch's name in it and says "that is the truth and the rest are all lies" smh 3 OUT OF 4 STORIES LOUDING TOLD DIDN'T EVEN HAVE HATCH INVOLVED!!!!

12) Comment by Joe Smith - 08/05/2012

CountryAttorney, Boosie is a character that is played by Torrance Hatch. Movie stars and authors aren't treated as if their roles are a reflection of them as a person, so why the double standard for rap music?.......... You don't think fans call actors by the names they have in movies??? PEOPLE CALL Maureen McCormick, Marcia Brady and probably will for the rest of her life. Chris Tucker says people still call him "Smokey" from "Friday" the movie and Mike Epps says people still call him "Day-Day" from "Next Friday" the movie.

13) Comment by CountryAttorney - 08/05/2012

Joe, firstly, "Boosie" is not Hatch's rap persona. It is his alias. As an illustration, i will use your example from the other day. No one sees Arnold Shwartzineger and says, "Goodmorning, Terminator." However, people do see Hatch and say, "Sup, Boosie?!" Willie Nelson is a drug user and dealer. But he is not a self proclaimed thug and murderer. Boosie has surely proclaimed himself to be a thug, and at the very least, has condoned intentional killings. And just to humbly correct BR Moderate, the Louisiana Supreme Court has declared that a conviction may be sustained even by only circumstantial evidence. Also see La. R.S. 15:438 which states, "The rule as to circumstantial evidence is: assuming every fact to be proved that the evidence tends to prove, in order to convict, it must exclude every reasonable hypothesis of innocence."

14) Comment by nimby? - 08/05/2012

witness tampering , death threats , some people need to go away for a long time . this would be a good start in the clean up of B R ....

15) Comment by Duckyluve - 08/05/2012

Joe how much have you been paid to be bozos cheerleader? The ADA made Louding look like the criminal that he is and shes going to convict bozo the rapper and send him to Angola for the rest of his miserable life. I guess you will be on his visiting list too

16) Comment by BRmoderate - 08/05/2012

@Joe...you have a point about Louding's testimony...THere is a reasonable doubt as to which story is the truth...therefore, the testimony would not carry any weight if I was a juror. Let's see the rest of the prosecution's case... If I were the defense attorney, I would make a motion to acquit before it went to the jury. I still think that these men are thugs (and probably committed this crime based on circumstantial evidence) but you cannot condemn a man based on character and you certainly must have more than circumstantial evidence

17) Comment by Joe Smith - 08/05/2012

CountryAttorney, even with Louding's testimony their was never any proof. Without it there is even less................................. An allegation is a claim of a fact by a party in a pleading, which the party claims to be able to prove. Allegations remain assertions without proof, until they can be proved............. So you believed Hatch was a murderer when Louding said it under coercion but now that Louding says Hatch is innocent under oath you don't believe him???? (WHICH ONE IS IT??) If Louding isn't trustworthy then why did the prosecution build a case with him being the star witness? Why didn't detectives investigate the mothers lead???? REASONABLE DOUBT!!!

18) Comment by HMaltravers - 08/05/2012

And God didn't make little green apples.

19) Comment by Joe Smith - 08/05/2012

Willy Nelson has 10 times more drug charges than Hatch but you wouldn't call him a drug dealer, why???? So because of Hatch's rap persona or character "Boosie" the prosecution doesn't have to meet the "same required burden of proof" as they would for an everyday average Joe????? huh NOW WHO IS BEING UNREASONABLE CountryAttorney?? smh (another bigoted statement from you)

20) Comment by Joe Smith - 08/05/2012

Torrance Hatch has only been convicted on petty drug charges. None of which were with intent to sale or distribute so where are you getting this murderous drug dealer profile from?? huh? Michael Louding??? He just testified that his earlier statements were coerced lies so I guess you are mistaken. smh.......... MURDER IS A SERIOUS CHARGE AND frivolous allegation just don't meat the burden of proof!!! ...............People were swearing up and down that the rapper Rick Ross was a real drug kingpin in Miami until Trick Daddy showed us the picture of him (William Roberts) graduating from the department of corrections academy!!! You have never met or sat down and talked to Torrance Hatch in your life, you just know the rap persona "Lil Boosie". BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!!

21) Comment by CountryAttorney - 08/05/2012

Good morning, Joe. As you have stated, the burden of proof is Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. All your comments over the last few days have shown is that you are anything but a reasonable man. The state is locking up one of your thug, murderous, and drug dealing heros, and you're upset. No one expects someone who idolizes a person like Hatch to be reasonable anyway.

22) Comment by Joe Smith - 08/05/2012

WOW!!! HOW IN THE HELL IS THE PROSECUTOR GOING TO SAY "HE'S GOING TO DENY IT WHEN HE TESTIFY" TO TRY AND TAKE THE SHOCK VALUE AWAY FROM THE DEFENSE TEAM....YOU HAVE NO CASE THEN, WHAT IN THE HELL ARE WE HERE FOR??

23) Comment by Jennifer1126 - 08/05/2012

Joe Smith....your ignorance is OOZING!!!

24) Comment by Elderly Man - 08/05/2012

I know Mr. Moore and Ms. Cummings but I do not yet see the case made. That is not to say that Mr. Hatch did not pay for the murder but still

25) Comment by WhoCares - 07/05/2012

Joe Smith, wow. Why do you hate gay people?

26) Comment by beanie - 07/05/2012

@Joe Smith ...I agree with you 100% on why Torrence Hatch was charged for this crime. Because of the punch at the District Attorney. I don't think they have a case. Well in this case i hope they don't. And, i am a woman of color, but hate rap music.

27) Comment by Joe Smith - 07/05/2012

If the charges can't stick you must acquit!!!

28) Comment by Joe Smith - 07/05/2012

THEY NEVER EVEN THOUGHT HATCH DID THIS. THEY JUST WANTED TO SHOW HIM THEY COULD MAKE HIS LIFE HELL FOR TAKING ABOUT DA HILLARD MOORE IN HIS RNYMES!!!!! ............................. THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO RAILROAD HATCH TO SHOW HIM WHO THE BOSS IS IN TOWN!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!

29) Comment by Joe Smith - 07/05/2012

I guess I'm old fashion but I steal believe in "Beyond a reasonable doubt" and with the "STAR WITNESS" testimony, the man's own mom giving them a lead that they don't even follow, and the simple fact that the prosecution is trying to use rap lyrics (smh hahaha) I see a lot of reasonable doubt in this case. To much to be honest. I AM STARTING TO THINK Hillard Moore SHOT TERRY BOYD.

30) Comment by Joe Smith - 07/05/2012

I THINK THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO RAILROAD BOOSIE IN BATON ROUGE!!!! ...........With 8 hours who couldn't get a Special Ed dropout to confess to anything. Why would Boosie have his babymama's brother shot anyway???? ........... THEY NEVER DID REALLY CARE WHO KILLED TERRY BOYD!!!! THE MAN'S MOM GAVE THEM A LEAD AND THEY JUST LOOKED THE OTHER WAY................ Boyd’s mother gave them a possible lead in the name of Michael Charles, also known as “Big Fancy’’ and “Big Mike.’’ Williams said Boyd and Charles were once incarcerated together at the same prison, but the detectives did not inquire about Charles. Chuck Smith, an East Baton Rouge Parish District Attorney’s Office investigator and case agent in the Hatch case, testified he later learned that Charles’ real name was Michael Charles Carter, and that he had died early last year.

31) Comment by Joe Smith - 07/05/2012

mike was 17 w/out a lawyer or parent when he confessed. THROW IT OUT!! free lil boosie!

32) Comment by Joe Smith - 07/05/2012

I thought this was the star witness and the whole reason this case got off the ground in the first place???? Louding just couldn't lie on Boosie twice. FREE BOOSIE!!!!!

33) Comment by Duckyluve - 07/05/2012

Did anybody really expect him to be honest???? He doesn't have a decent bone in his body

34) Comment by Bwaites985 - 07/05/2012

I hope he is fond of those stripes, cause he will be wearing them for life.