Senate OKs new school district for BR 

Senate backs creation of new school district

A plan that would permit a breakaway school district in southeast Baton Rouge won lopsided approval Wednesday in the Louisiana Senate.

The two-bill package passed 30-8 and 29-7 after about one hour of debate.

The plan next faces action in the Louisiana House and, if approved there, goes to voters statewide.

Under the proposal, 10 public schools now in the East Baton Rouge Parish school system would make up the newly formed Southeast Baton Rouge Community School System.

State Sen. Bodi White, R-Central and sponsor of the plan, said the package is a response to pleas from mothers, fathers, students and others who have concluded that long-standing problems in the East Baton Rouge system demand a fresh start.

“They want it very badly,” White said of residents in the area.

The proposed district would extend southeast from the Interstate 10/12 split, south of I-12 and east of I-10 to the parish lines.

It would apply to seven elementary schools, two middle schools and one high school.

The new district would be the fourth of its kind and follow breakaway moves by Baker, Central and Zachary.

All used to be part of the East Baton Rouge Parish school system, which has a “D” rating.

White noted that Istrouma High School will soon be put under state control — which he called the eighth such school in the district — and that 31 other failing schools in north Baton Rouge are about to enter a new improvement zone, which will also be overseen by the state.

He said parish education spending totals $14,300 per student when construction dollars are included.

“It is not about the money,” White told the Senate. “It is about are we going to educate these kids?”

But state Sen. Sharon Weston Broome, D-Baton Rouge, disputed White’s comments in a pointed exchange near the end of the debate.

Broome said that, while views vary on how to repair the schools, dismantling the system is not the answer.

“If we are going to work toward education reform in East Baton Rouge Parish, let’s all do it together,” Broome said.

She said that leaving one segment of the school population behind “to just suffer, that is not being community-minded.”

Broome sponsored an amendment that would require the new district to provide about $6 million per year to the East Baton Rouge Parish school system for “legacy” costs, such as teacher retirement and other expenses.

“With all of these breakaways, we will be bankrupt if this is not addressed,” she said.

The amendment failed 16-20.

The proposal that spells out details of the plan is Senate Bill 563, which requires a simple majority.

The constitutional amendment that is also required, Senate Bill 299, needs a two-thirds vote of support, which is 26 in the Senate.

White said after the vote that he thinks the bills stand a good chance of passage in the House, even with intense opposition from leaders of the East Baton Rouge Parish school system,

“It is change, it is difficult,” he said.

East Baton Rouge Parish school system leaders note that $97 million has been committed for schools in the proposed district.

Broome said that includes $17 million for Woodlawn Elementary School, $13 million for Woodlawn Middle School and $23 million for Woodlawn High School.

The East Baton Rouge school system has about 43,000 students, and black students make up 81 percent of enrollment.

About 6,800 students attend public schools in the proposed district now, and officials say about 55 percent are minority.

What the new district would look like is in dispute.

White has said he thinks enrollment will be about 25 percent minority.

Critics contend that figure is too high and that race concerns are part of the motivation for the move.

Here are the 10 schools that are now in the East Baton Rouge Parish system that would make up the new district:

Cedarcrest-Southmoor, Jefferson Terrace, Parkview, Shenandoah, Wedgewood, Westminster and Woodlawn elementary schools; Woodlawn and Southeast middle schools and Woodlawn High School.

Voting FOR establishing a new school district in southeast Baton Rouge (30): President Alario, Adley, Allain, Appel, Buffington, Chabert, Claitor, Cortez, Crowe, Donahue, Erdey, Guillory, Johns, Kostelka, Long, Martiny, Mills, Morrell, Morrish, Nevers, Peacock, Perry, Riser, G. Smith, J. Smith, Tarver, Thompson, Walsworth, Ward and White.

Voting AGAINST SB563 (8): Sens. Broome, Brown, Dorsey-Colomb, Gallot, Heitmeier, LaFleur, Murray and Peterson.

NOT Voting (1): Sen. Amedee.


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Comments (64)


1) Comment by 8.3 - 28/04/2012

"Beware of the Silent Majority" would that be the ones in white sheets or brown shirts or both?

2) Comment by DMJ - 27/04/2012

This plan will work....for some. It will have the opposite effect for others. Some do better...most do worse. This is America.

3) Comment by nimby? - 27/04/2012

in the words of Malcom X ," you are only a victim if you allow yourself to be one , blaming the white man serves no purpose , take control of your own lives " ; a great man , misunderstood , silenced for his message ...

4) Comment by Dawson - 27/04/2012

Sorry Scrooge you are way off base, calling me a liberal would be like calling Obama a neo-con. I don't make liberal arguments, say what you wish but a refusal to be educated just about guarantees poverty. Poverty does not guarantee no education so no inversion of facts exist or was made. I am also against programs that take my money and waste it on others and I believe in smaller government from the ground up with a complete removal of the Federal Government in most instances, for sure in education. I agree you can't ignore the problem but you have to confront it and make painful decisions that force people to be responsible for their own actions or lack thereof. There are to many ways for people to do nothing and the government will take care of them. Remove the ease of living an entitlement life and you will begin to see people work to achieve on their own instead of waiting for others to do it for them.

5) Comment by Scrooge - 27/04/2012

The best solution would obviously be privatization and charters, it is pointless to create another tax payer funded bureaucracy, we already have too many. NO NEW TAXES FOR SOCIALIST HANDOUTS!!!! Let those who want to educate their children pay for it themselves.

6) Comment by WhoCares - 26/04/2012

Not caps and exclamations....it's getting serious. LMAO

7) Comment by Scrooge - 26/04/2012

This is just a liberal scheme for new taxes. NO NEW TAXES FOR SOCIALIST HANDOUTS!!!! BUST TAXES.

8) Comment by WhoCares - 26/04/2012

Good one, Ovation.

9) Comment by ovation - 26/04/2012

The crows are crowing....BUT....Beware of the Silent Majority

10) Comment by Scrooge - 26/04/2012

Dawson's retrograde inversion of the facts leaves out some significant facts: 1. The History of a willful subjugation of a people 2:. In Louisiana, to achieve equal income levels, whites are held to a different standard of academic achievement, mainly because of the concentration of wealth. In other words, a black child must academically outperform a white child exponentially in order to achieve comparable wealth. The vast majority of private businesses in Baton Rouge are white owned, executive positions are gained by family ties. That might engender some hopelessness on the part of those who do not have those birthrights, maybe? Besides, Dawson is making the classic liberal argument for raising taxes, socialist handouts to people who can afford to pay for their own children's education> Sorry Dawson, your inbred bias, likely genetic in origin, has colored your reason. My point is that ignoring the problem will not make it go away and the incalculable loss to Louisiana by not utilizing the human resources available to it by a continuing history of denial of opportunity is the reason it is and will stay on the bottom. There is an educational solution but enforcing the discipline where parents do not would take an investment , not onl of funds, but in encroachment of civil liberties. Unfortunately, that will not happen so we sidestep the issue while nothing really changes. I will support no tax increase that benefits those who want me to pay for their children;s education when they can afford it themselves.

11) Comment by Traveler - 26/04/2012

Has anybody noticed that the usually vocal and highly visible BR Chanber has been strangely silent on this issue? I am sure that the Chamber has a position on the proposed new district. My guess is that the Chamber has had its own "strategic plan" about the pullout in place for some time and has been moving the players around like pieces on a chessboard to get everybody exactly where the Chamber wants them to be. The question this time is, why their secrecy? The Chamber is not interested in philanthrophy or the well-being of somebody else's kids, so ask yourselves....who stands to benefit from this change, and in what ways? It's going to happen----it would just be interesting to see what the profiteers have in mind.

12) Comment by CountryBoysCanSurvive - 26/04/2012

Hooray for the big fat man...way to tell them liberals bout how the cow eats the cabbage, intergration will work for only those that want it......sorry

13) Comment by Dawson - 26/04/2012

No one in this discussion can honestly bring up race when EBR is in the 90 percents black on average in its high schools. It seems like the only racism comes from the people who believe it is illegal or somehow unconstitutional to have a school that isn't majority black.

14) Comment by Dawson - 26/04/2012

Actually Scrooge, academic achievement is the greatest predictor of socio-economic status. The paradigm has been twisted to state that being poor means you will not be educated when the real truth is not being educated will make you poor. The greatest predictor of poverty is having no education and the culture of destruction in some communities and complete failure to take any responsibility for its actions is the problem. With that said, the real question is why are minority students so difficult and expensive to educate?

15) Comment by Preppy6917 - 26/04/2012

Legitimate question: are there any "Robin Hood" laws in effect in Louisiana to ensure that each district receives the same amount of funding per student?

16) Comment by Preppy6917 - 26/04/2012

Bigfatman: Where do you get your information? Private/parochial school students have always been free to apply to and attend EBRPS magnet schools. Public school applicants are NOT given an admissions priority over private/parochial school applicants.

17) Comment by janiea - 26/04/2012

Who cares what the justice Dept. thinks. They are the reason the school system has been brought to it's knee. Some valid points were addressed during the deseg order, all in all it's the reason EBRPSS experienced white flight. A majority of parents have failed their children in not providing them with the environment they need to be productive students. This is why I believe the break off of the new district is wonderful. I do not have a stake in this, however I had three children live through this during the 80's and 90's. It was an experience everyday that became more and more stressful as they got older. What does it really matter what the majority of students skin color is. As long as the parents want this and are active in this it's the right thing to do.

18) Comment by nimby? - 26/04/2012

Scrooge , how have I belittled BRH ? it is a school of achievement . its students are or all walks of life , different races . they are there with the intent of getting an education , a priority not found in parents/students attending other EBR schools . whodat70816 , in almost 30 years in the local system I observed definite peer pressure within the black community ; there is no "snitching" , don't like "uncle toms" , and above all there is a harassment of those trying to get an education , trying to improve their lives as if some sort of betrayal , am I wrong ? instead of leveling the playing field we continue to lower standards , still there is failure ...

19) Comment by Cicereaux - 26/04/2012

The whites are trying to escape the East Baton Rouge Parish School System.

20) Comment by Scrooge - 26/04/2012

This is just a scheme for new taxes. NO NEW TAXES!!!! BUST TAXES. Just a tax and spend mentality!!!!

21) Comment by Scrooge - 26/04/2012

I love how when the liberal is looking for socialist handouts by honest taxpayers to pay for their children's education. The liberal agenda is to have the elites pay for schooling for mediocrities.

22) Comment by Scrooge - 26/04/2012

nimby? belittles the BRH culture of achievement (which works) but then belittles the culture of lack of achievement. The conclusion is evidently that mediocrity is best. Personally,I find mediocrity from whatever source unacceptable. nimby?is apparently a retired teacher in EBR who would be likely fired under the new paradigm as espoused by John White. Not endorsing anything other than contradiction is not an effective method of making an argument.

23) Comment by WhoCares - 26/04/2012

This district will be Number 1 in the state in five years...bet. We just passed a CATs tax on property owners in select areas of town that the vast majority of the people will never use. I'm not saying public transit won't help economic development, but it still went to a vote of the people. I know an A rated public school district will have a huge economic impact on the entire area. Still a vote. When business think to relocate here it will help, bottom line. I love how when the state takes over schools, RSD, the BRHS elitist don't get up in arms, but when locals try to, by a vote, you threaten and bully. Typical naysayers you are.

24) Comment by whodat70816 - 26/04/2012

" their unwillingness to improve their lives along with their behavior towards those wanting to break the cycle does little to inspire " Whose unwillingness and behavior? How much time have you spent with them? What issues, struggles, challenges they face have discussed with them? Just wondering how you can come to such a conclusion...

25) Comment by whodat70816 - 26/04/2012

With all the comments blaming the NAACP and deseg....I can only conclude that this breaking away has everything to do with race. Pretty sad.

26) Comment by nimby? - 26/04/2012

BRHS , the poster child of EBR is an elitist school . and I agree it's hard to ignore 50 percent of the population while many in this group choose not to move forward with society . their unwillingness to improve their lives along with their behavior towards those wanting to break the cycle does little to inspire ...

27) Comment by Crawdaddy - 26/04/2012

There is an old expression: (The) Kids would rather be praised than punished, they would rather be punished than ignored. Just a suggestion...

28) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

I have to admit I really feel for this new man, though. He seems like a person who has the best intentions. In no way could he have known what he walked into.

29) Comment by Being_Stupid - 26/04/2012

Perhaps, in about 10 years they can build a second highschool (perhaps a magnet highschool) in this proposed district on that big empty plot of land in the center of Jefferson Terrace near Blue Cross/Blue Shield. The land is already there, waiting and donated. Just need a new magnet school to be built on top of it. They can name the new magnet high school "White High School" after Bodi White.

30) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

All Zachary students are not privileged. That is such a misunderstanding of the great kids we do serve with our unconditional support.

31) Comment by Vernonbrew22 - 26/04/2012

Give these guys in SE BR a chance. It may not be as utopian like Zachary or Central (and they have had their lumps), but will probably no be as bad as baker or bogalusa Independent Schools. Attention SE BR, find your sources of steady tax stream - do not be fooled into thinking it will not cost. Find local businesses ready to support. I'm not saying to put Parkview and Episcopal out of business, just use their will to teach and learn as a model. The rest of the EBR system is a forlorn situation. I'd pay $30,000 a year to educate my kids if I had them. Good luck and good ridance.

32) Comment by Scrooge - 26/04/2012

Yup, Louisiana will remain at the bottom, we are fooling ourselves. The aristocracy will always profit at the expense of the peasants.

33) Comment by Scrooge - 26/04/2012

I will not support elitism by voting to tax myself for the convenience of a privileged

34) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

Scrooge, there are always other factors. Reference comments by The Kid, once again. That about sums it up.

35) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

As for the comment by The Kid. Oh, my, what can be said about the irony. Education, please.

36) Comment by Scrooge - 26/04/2012

Parents of EBR magnet school children are then obviously more involved with their children's education than Zachary school district parents or private school parents, or are there other factors?

37) Comment by weliveherenow - 26/04/2012

It's disturbing how quickly this is being pushed along....I've done my research and now cannot understand why anyone outside of this proposed district would support it. I can see the benefits to those in favor, sure everyone wants great, close schools for their chidlren...but the financial strain it puts on what remains of EBRPSS is not worth it. EBRPSS builds three new schools which this new district will use...and EBRPSS still gets to foot the bill for years?!? Isn't that nice? The teachers in this new district will need to be bought out by EBR and then "rehired" at the new district, what a scam!

38) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

Scrooge, we actually agree on more than you realize. I have never had a child in the Zachary SD or the EBR SD. Still, I support funding through taxes with my Yes vote. And Zachary is finally addressing the absolute need for Art Programs. I am thrilled they are doing so. I believe Art Programs should be implemented in every school across the board. It has such a positive impact on children and their parents. Zachary SD is going to be better than ever because of it and because of the new Lunch Menu addressing proper nutrition. This will also cost more and I am still willing to pay though I'll never have a family member in school anywhere. I also completely support funding of programs such as Big Buddy and Summer Enrichment Programs. All that said, I also understand the parents and their bid to form a new SD.

39) Comment by nimby? - 26/04/2012

I remember students showing up for free lunches wearing air jordans and pro sports licensed wear . as QuietRiverRoad stated , " priorities , y'all " .....

40) Comment by nimby? - 26/04/2012

40 years ago their was civic pride in what part of town you were from , it has become an embarrassment . social engineering didn't level the playing field , it lowered the bar . a responsible , caring parent , of any color , means will do what it takes to ensure their child gets a proper education . if ALL parents shared this appreciation , chose to involve themselves in their childs' activities , education , life we might not be having this discussion . but as I've been told too many times we cannot legislate morality , responsibility or discipline . tired of the excuses ...

41) Comment by Scrooge - 26/04/2012

QuietRiverRoad, it was obvious I was speaking of the magnet schools being bright spots, not the new SE district. Which will likely do better than the average due to socioeconomic reasons,otherwise there wold not be the movement. As someone who doesn't have a child in the system, I personally would rather my tax dollars support education for ALL children in Baton Rouge, not just the economically advantaged ones who are currently in private schools in my neighborhood. The facts are that free lunch ratios undeniably correspond to academic achievement in the general student population. Love and caring are great but the fact remains, Zachary 24% free lunch, EBR 77% Baker in the 60th %. The interplay of the ratios can be verified by comparison of any schools in the state or nation. Besides, the objectivist argument is that one should pay for one's own children's schooling and not rely on others for socialist handouts (see CATS) , I do not subscribe to that view, neither do I think a return to the divisiveness of the past which caused these problems in the first place will do wonders for our society as a whole. It is not only one segment of Baton Rouge society which is having difficulty parting with the mores of the past. However, even with all the right genetic factors, ZHS significantly under performs BRMHS, The impact of arts is another factor in brain development.

42) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

Well stated.

43) Comment by Crawdaddy - 26/04/2012

To me the key word is "ownership". Parents have to take ownership of their children's education. This may mean financial sacrifice as in paying tuition. Or it may mean moving to a new area to attend better schools. It may mean having children tested for the gifted and talented program. If you want to see ownership in action, look at our Asian community. In many cases, the typical pathway is for their children to test into the G&T program and then progress through Buchanan Elementary , Glasgow Middle and then leave the gifted program to go to BRMHS. If they do not go to BRMHS then the McKinley High gifted program is the choice. Anyway, it does make sense for SE BR to break away at this point -- they have new schools, a complete G&T pathway (Parkview Elem is an A+ school), a dedicated population which is already zoned for success, and they are catching EBRPSS at a time when they are at their weakest administratively with a changing of the guard. The one problem will be no BRMHS option and a number of parents will oppose this move for that reason.

44) Comment by bigfatman - 26/04/2012

I don't believe that it will come close to acheiving scores like Central and Zachary. On another note. I say lets blame this on the NAACP. Back in 1982 forced busing and deseg. was rammed down the throats of both black and white families. Look at the demographics of EBR today. Minorities live all over the parish. Intergration would have naturally taken place over a slower period of time and we would not be in the turmoil we are in today. Thank you. Federal Judge, Justice Dept., and NAACP. All of you who thought your child was going to get a better education by busing them to a white school,well you got fooled by your on leaders. Case in point, you are right back where you started and probably a lot worse. Since 1982 I've watched the slow decline. EBR will be mostly all RSD in a few years after SESD breaks away. BRMHS will have to pick from lower acheiving students to attend or open it back up to private or catholic school students to apply for admission.The few schools holding their heads above water will have more low preforming students chose their school to attend. Good luck to those schools and the good teachers that will get screwed by the new evaluation standards.

45) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

Priorities, y'all.

46) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

Case in point - #2 EBR councilwomen proposed funding vital programs which encourage and support youngsters in EBR. Neither was funded. Bad idea. Fund these types of programs or stop complaining about truancy and juvenile crime. It's about community involvement and funding.

47) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

You oppose a few bright spots in a desolate landscape (potentially the new proposed SD) and then accuse "y'all" of destroying the few bright spots in a desolate landscape. All the children who attend Zachary schools do not have a 2 parent wealthy household. What they do have is a support system sorely lacking in EBRPSS. Mentoring is key. Our minority students do just as well as our non-minority students here in Zachary. Just as well. It's about parental involvement whether one wants to admit it or not. And community support. Support from residents through taxes to fund schools. Baker passed the CATS tax because they knew they needed a viable transit system. I just can't understand why they couldn't pass the last school tax. Priorities, folks.

48) Comment by Scrooge - 26/04/2012

I agree, so why isn't parental involvement. being legislated? Are gated communities really doing your heirs and country a service?. The future looks grim. Socioeconomic status is the greatest predictor of academic achievement, it also may relate to the fact that wealthier persons have more time to spend with their children or one spouse may not work, more education and vocabulary not to mention the increased exposure to brain development opportunities, which are being dismantled (see early education). Although parental involvement is extremely crucial, combining that with high incomes, two parent families and parents with college degrees or better who are motivated to drive their children , yes there will be high academic performance. It does seem that those desirable advantages are generally lopsided in our society. Regardless, BRMHS still substantially out performs Zachary High School and y'all may be destroying the few bright spots in an otherwise desolate landscape. All these schools in the proposed new district are pretty much neighborhood schools already, their performance is not quite stellar.

49) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

With it, nothing can stop success. Without it, the problem remains.

50) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

When it's boiled down to a fine gravy, it's either the problem or the solution.

51) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

Parental involvement.

52) Comment by whodat70816 - 26/04/2012

@duckyluve...."individual school districts will always do better than a parish wide system"....Guess you've never heard of St. Tammany Parish and their parish wide school system.

53) Comment by Scrooge - 26/04/2012

There's just that inconvenient fact of the magnet schools like BRMHS. But mediocrity rules. See "Letter: EBR magnet schools applauded". Also, Zachary schools have 24% free lunch, EBR has 77% (La. DOE) . Zachary has few or none private schools. Why waste taxpayer money on a new bureaucracy when the solution is obviously privatization, right? Whether or not this new school district is created or not, the problem remains.

54) Comment by Duckyluve - 26/04/2012

The new district will pass and it will be successful. Individual school districts will always do better than a parish wide system. The employees, students and parents tend to take ownership in the schools. EBR has had years to fix their problems with very little progress. If anything EBR should be able to focus on their much smaller district and have success. It sounds to me that all EBR is really worried about is the money that they will be losing. They will be losing the financial burden so the loss of the money shouldn't be a problem.

55) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

I will say this, every school tax better be passed. Simply changing the lines is not going to work in the long run. Baker is a prime example of mixed-up priorities. Help your schools.

56) Comment by WhoCares - 26/04/2012

Ok thank! :)

57) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

There was opposition but not nearly on the scale as this will be. i agree with you and I wish it the best success.

58) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

Not at all.

59) Comment by WhoCares - 26/04/2012

Quite River Road are you saying you don't believe this Distrcit will be as good as Zachary?? I was there when Zachary broke away and it was VERY controversial. There is no doubt in my mind this new Distrcit will be competing in the top ten with in 3 years.

60) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

EBR schools will never be successful unless some very significant changes are made. When Zachary broke away, there was not so much opposition. I believe most thought Zachary was so small that it wouldn't make it and Zachary probably wouldn't be relevant. But look what having the #1 school district year after year can do for a little town. Our students are the greatest beneficiaries. But we, as landowners and businesses reap our tax money rewards abundantly. Traffic is Zachary's major concern. That's nice in a way.

61) Comment by WhoCares - 26/04/2012

The district is going to be 56% African American. White never said 25% that was Dorsey I watched the whole debate online. The advocate has already on multiple occasions reported that it will be 56% African American and 39% White. Either way who cares this is kgreat that a part of town that instead of letting their schools go into RSD are fighting for them. Bottom line is, let the people vote just like they had to on the CATS tax. If NBR would just open their eyes and look to form their own community school district it would of never gotten taken over by the state. Good job guys! don't listen to the naysayers keep on pushing. When it is all said and done this will be a great, diverse district. EBRPSS made their own bed remember that.

62) Comment by QuietRiverRoad - 26/04/2012

I think you hear frustration.

63) Comment by CountryBoysCanSurvive - 26/04/2012

Listen, do I hear a Dukes of Hazzard horn playing in the background?

64) Comment by gtinla - 26/04/2012

Is this new district going to pay the rest of the parish for the new schools we are all paying for? Rather curious that the district will go from 55 percent minor it to 25 percent minority. I wonder if the Justice Department will approve it.