CATS tax discussed

Fred Skelton, a 70-year-old Baton Rouge homeowner, has never ridden a CATS bus before, and doesn’t expect that he’ll ever need to ride one.

But Skelton said at a Together Baton Rouge Civic Academy on Thursday that he will be “first in line at his voting precinct to support” the 10-year, 10.6-mill property tax on April 21 to pay for an expanded and improved parish bus service.

The reason, he said, is because before his mother died, she used to stay at a nursing home where he’d visit her. When he visited, he said, he remembered frequently seeing groups of employees waiting for the bus.

“Those people who were waiting for the bus are the people who were taking care of my mother,” he said. “If we shut down the transit system, who will take care of those people?”

He said that while he doesn’t use the bus, he realizes that he is reliant on many other people who use the system to get to their jobs.

Skelton was one of about 100 people who showed up for the first Civic Academy held by the faith-based, nonprofit organization. The meetings are to educate the public about a city-wide tax proposition to reform the Capital Area Transit System that will go to voters in Baton Rouge, Zachary and Baker.

The Rev. Raymond Jetson, a Together Baton Rouge leader, told the crowd that for years CATS has been significantly underfunded compared to peer cities in the South.

He also said that the tax would not merely keep CATS afloat, but would transform the way bus service is provided in Baton Rouge by dramatically reducing wait times and expanding the service area.

Jetson noted that the average wait time for a bus is 75 minutes, and the average bus ride takes two and a half hours.

“That’s the time it takes to drive to Biloxi, Mississippi,” Jetson said. CATS promises to reduce wait times to 15 to 20 minutes.

On the property tax itself, Jetson said that residents already pay much higher millage rates for other services they value.

For example, he said, the library system is 11.1 mills, the parks system is 14.4 mills, and fire departments and schools range from about 10 to 80 mills.

“The fact that Zachary is constantly being commended for its wonderful school system might have to do with the fact that it receives 79.2 mills,” Jetson said. “You don’t get something for nothing.”

Some people who attended the meeting expressed concern about the size of the tax request.

“That’s quite a bit of money for people on a fixed income like myself,” said Sarah Williams, 78, a Baton Rouge resident.

The 10.6 mills would cost $168 a year, or $14 a month, for someone with a home valued at $157,000. Property owners cannot take advantage of the homestead exemption because it is a municipal tax.

Other people expressed frustration that city-parish officials were not able to solve CATS’ financial woes within the existing budget.

Skelton noted that Metro Council members have attended previous Together Baton Rouge meetings with promises of trying to help CATS close its budget deficit.

“All those hotshot friends in the council who talked about finding money for CATS, well, not one of them made a motion to move any money for them,” Skelton said. “Those are false friends.”

This year CATS is facing a $2.1 million budget deficit because of the loss of federal and state funds. If the tax plan fails, CATS will be shuttered by July.

About 20 students, representing LSU and Southern University, attended the meeting, expressing support for the bus system.

Kendra Martin, 21, a Southern University student, said she lives off campus and frequently uses the CATS bus system to get to class, which, she said, is a better alternative than having to search for a parking spot in packed lots.

She said if CATS were to close, many Southern students, particularly freshman who often do not have cars, would lose their primary mode of transportation around campus and across the parish.

“It’s important to me and the other students who attend Southern,” she said.

In October 2010, voters rejected a proposal by CATS for a 3.5-mill property tax.

Together Baton Rouge will hold another civic academy on Jan. 24 at 6 p.m. at St. Paul Catholic Church, 3912 Gus Young Ave., and on Jan. 26 at 6 p.m. at Shiloh Baptist Church, 185 Eddie Robinson Sr. Drive.


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Comments (21)


1) Comment by ScotB - Saturday, January 21, 2012

In the interest of fairness, it seems to me that a tax burden should be supported by those who are most likely to benefit, it possible. The primary users are folks getting to work at low paying jobs. Why not institute a tax for employers who pay less than $10/hour? I read somewhere the system has a $2 million shortfall. If there are 40,000 people in BR making less than $10/hour, then a $1 per week tax for each employee would give CATS the money they need. These low paying employers would benefit from having their employees continue to be able to arrive reliably to work. This would not be a big burden to these employers and I'm sure many of them are concerned what will happen to their business if their employee can't take the bus.

2) Comment by phil - Friday, January 20, 2012

A question since I do not have a good recent map. Are Bluebonnet and Siegen in the city limits and all of those Malls like the Mall of LA.? If not I guess they will need to stop CATS service to those areas since those malls will not be required to pay this tax if they are out of the city limits? Right?

3) Comment by Cousin Dave - Friday, January 20, 2012

I have just learned that I was misinformed about Mr. Skelton's Hogenville Avenue residence, and it is indeed within the city limits (although just barely). My apologies, Mr. Skelton, but you still never met a tax you didn't like..

4) Comment by Dawson - Friday, January 20, 2012

Let Mr. Skelton and those students offer donations or pay more for their fares. If the system needs subsidized, the users of the system should subsidize it. I pay enough taxes and it getting pretty old to have to vote "NO" over and over on the same stuff.

5) Comment by arin - Friday, January 20, 2012

@CD, the name was familiar but I couldn't place it. Thanks for the info. I do agree with your opinion on this matter.

6) Comment by Far_EAST - Friday, January 20, 2012

are any more forums going to be held in South BR ? These upcoming meetings are being held in locations less than 3 miles apart from each other. I suppose one could always hop on the bus..............

7) Comment by Cousin Dave - Friday, January 20, 2012

Fred Skelton is a retired teacher union rep who never met a tax that he didn't like. I can't believe the morons at the Advocate ran a whole story about what Skelton thinks about the CATS tax proposal. If you check, you will find that Skelton lives on Hoganville Road off Stumberg Lane, which is OUTSIDE the city limits, so he won't be able to vote on the the proposal anyway. Nice job, Advocate. What do you people do for an encorer?

8) Comment by nimby? - Friday, January 20, 2012

when EBR got out of the garbage collection racket several private companies stepped in , all seem to be doing fine ....

9) Comment by tball - Friday, January 20, 2012

Does Mr. Skelton own any property??

10) Comment by tradewinns - Friday, January 20, 2012

mr. skelton's statement just goes to show age and wisdom do not always go together.

11) Comment by phil - Friday, January 20, 2012

I also think people need to listen carefully to exactly what they are being told and why. Who picked the peer cities and why were they picked out of all of the possible cities? What make a city a peer city? Check out the peer cities and see how they are acutally doing financially inluding both the actual city and the transit system in that specific city. I could have picked a "peer" city that actually obtains 40 percent of its revenues from fares.

12) Comment by 50andcounting - Friday, January 20, 2012

My objection isn't so much the content, but the relative size, of the tax. Sorry, but public transportation just isn't in the same playing field as public schools. This thing makes Kip's Project GoldPlatedRiverbank look cheap. CATS tax: the SOPA of local taxes.

13) Comment by Being_Stupid - Friday, January 20, 2012

@Phil, I want CATs to shut down. The sooner CATs shuts down, the sooner the Private Market can takeover and provide reliable transportation services to the public consumer. The Function of Government is to provide roadways and designated stopping areas only, not provide and micromanage actual transportation services.

14) Comment by phil - Friday, January 20, 2012

I doubt that few people if any actually want the CATS system to shut down completely, and that is not the real issue with this gigantic proposed property tax. To compare CATS with other systems that already get too much tax money like the library system and BREC is a just another method to push another large tax. We hardly need to add another independent government agency that can request more and more taxes over and over again with little regard for other priorities in the parish. Remember the big library debate? Also another issue IS the park system. How many parks, paths, and greenways are now being built or are planned that will NOT use BREC tax funds but will use other funds. We have parks being built that are not in the BREC park system in EBR Parish. That tax money alone would be enough to fund the deficits for CATS for more than a year and probably several years. However it think the real issue here is that a very large property tax is being proposed that will apparently not come under the homestead exemption, so ALL property owners, including poor ones, will have to pay this tax. People who rent will also indirectly pay this tax. Therefore, you can just toss the argument that this tax is to help the poor, since it will be a regressive tax that will actually harm more poor people than it helps. Then there is the added subject that the districts are being gerrymandered and manipulated for this tax vote AFTER a previous tax proposition for CATS has already failed. There are no guarantees that the bus system will improve or that people will actually start riding the buses. What is guaranteed is that property owners will get stuck with a tax they cannot get rid of for 10 years. If you look at the big picture, this proposed tax has a lot of negatives and should not pass.

15) Comment by The_Host - Friday, January 20, 2012

The last tax election was a failure so what do they do this year. Triple the amount that was rejected last year. Brilliant!

16) Comment by Being_Stupid - Friday, January 20, 2012

CATs / The Official Government Transportation Monopoly and Excessive Government Regulation prevents the private market from being able to compete and provide reliable / timely transportation services to the public consumer at fair market prices.

17) Comment by Being_Stupid - Friday, January 20, 2012

CATs / Transportation Government Monopoly and Excessive Government Regulation on Transportation is the Problem, Not the Solution.

18) Comment by Ivy - Friday, January 20, 2012

Mr. Skelton sees that one hand does wash the other....Imagine having to get up two hours early to get to a minimum wage paying job, and be expected to provide first rate care once you arrive. Been there, done that, and advanced myself as soon as I was able. And that's what a lot of those workers will do or have done in the past. For every one of these "disadvantaged workers" who asks, "Doesn't anybody care?" I would point to the comments section for an answer - NO.

19) Comment by nimby? - Friday, January 20, 2012

but wait , there's more . if you act now ....

20) Comment by 8point6 - Friday, January 20, 2012

Still beating this dead horse, are we? "Jetson noted that the average wait time for a bus is 75 minutes, and the average bus ride takes two and a half hours. “That’s the time it takes to drive to Biloxi, Mississippi,” Jetson said. CATS promises to reduce wait times to 15 to 20 minutes." Wow, what a reduction in wait time! I've said it before, get the "faith-based" community to donate 20 percent of their monthly collections to help CATS. "About 20 students, representing LSU and Southern University, attended the meeting, expressing support for the bus system." Of course they would. I would wager none own property. Before my "progressive" friends start calling me, "hater", "greedy", etc, here's the taxes I'm paying for being a property owner: additional aid to public, additional special law en, (a second) additonal special law en, additional teachers (2.78, assessor's salary & expen, B.R. municipal fire sal., brec capitol improvements, brec maintenance & operat (five of these same names with different tax rates), constitutional school (5., emergency medical service, general fund, (6.48), mosquito abatement distri, mosquito abatement distri, parish library (11.10), parish tax, (3.54), school - replacing reduce, school empl salaries & be (three of these with different tax rates), special - emp. salaries &, special -school maintena, special- support adapp, special law enforcement 1, three-platoon police syst. A total of 28 taxes.

21) Comment by CountryBoysCanSurvive - Friday, January 20, 2012

And I will be first in line to cancel out Mr. Skelton's vote so far that makes the score zero to zero.